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Old February 25th, 2008, 02:37 AM   #641
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Great news , worth congratulating !
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Old February 25th, 2008, 03:04 AM   #642
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whoa i didn't know that Qingzang railway is only single track. Are there any plans to make it double track to increase capacity and frequency?
No, not in the near future. The geographical condition alone the rail is so harsh that making the rail double-track would add a lot to the budget. By the way there isn't much traffic on the line since the population in tibet is only around 2.6 million, so double-tracked rail isn't necessary.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 03:31 PM   #643
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great thread willliu.

the Qingzang railway traffic is growing fast, 2007 passenger figure is 1.59 million, up 420% from the figure in 2006. The 2007 total Tibet tourists surpassed 4 million, up 60% year on year.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 07:36 AM   #644
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This is an huge "achivement"...

There was a documantary about building this rail road. If anybody have the name or better a torrent file please share it I want to wacth it again.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 07:49 AM   #645
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whoa i didn't know that Qingzang railway is only single track. Are there any plans to make it double track to increase capacity and frequency?
on top of the population issue. The cost to build and maintain another track on this route could very well bankrupt China.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 08:00 AM   #646
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i saw a documentary on Discovery channel about this....huge achievement by the Chinese, and it's pretty cool that the trains are pressurized given the high altitude. There are even doctors on the trains.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 01:07 PM   #647
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Old February 27th, 2008, 09:13 PM   #648
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railway development plan for the next decade

what are the chances for the most western, extremely long dashed line ,parallel to the border, to get built?
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Old February 29th, 2008, 04:35 AM   #649
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what are the chances for the most western, extremely long dashed line ,parallel to the border, to get built?
tibet-xinjiang railway(the one you refer to) is 1500km. The construction will start next year and will be finished before 2015.
the other railways in tibet will be finished before 2010.
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Old February 29th, 2008, 04:37 AM   #650
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tibet-xinjiang railway(the one you refer to) is 1500km. The construction will start next year and will be finished before 2015.
the other railways in tibet will be finished before 2010.
are you sure of it? I've never heard any news mentioning it, please be accurate and provide the source, thanks.
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Old February 29th, 2008, 08:49 PM   #651
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are you sure of it? I've never heard any news mentioning it, please be accurate and provide the source, thanks.
here are some of the sources in Chinese:
http://info.upla.cn/html/2007/10-23/59392.shtml
http://news.eastday.com/eastday/node...1a2233636.html
http://www.ywpw.com/forums/travel/po.../html/178.html
http://cn.chinagate.com.cn/chinese/jj/69201.htm
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 06:18 PM   #652
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China plan to make 350 km/h bullet train



China will start research in building a 350-kilometer-per-hour train for the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway that has been under discussion for years, said the country's science ministry and the railway ministry.


The Ministry of Science and Technology and the Ministry of Railway signed an agreement on Tuesday night to collaborate in developing an upgraded version of the present China Railway High-speed (CRH) trains.


The latest model of CRH series with a speed of 300 kilometers per hour, rolled off the production line only last December. It will first serve on the Beijing-Tianjin railway in August this year, in time for the Beijing Olympics.


The two ministries did not specify a timetable for the development of the upgraded bullet train, but said they intended the new CRH train to provide service on the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway which would kick off construction "very soon", according to the railway minister Liu Zhijun, present at the signing ceremony.


The Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway, expected to extend 1,318 kilometers long, has been under discussion for more than 10 years.


With an estimated investment of 160 billion yuan (21 billion U.S. dollars), the railway upon its completion would become the largest as well as the most expensive engineering project in the country.


It would cut travel time between the Chinese capital and the country's leading financial hub from around 10 hours at present to about five hours, doubling the existing transport capacity to carry 160 million passengers annually.


(Xinhua News Agency February 27, 2008)

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 03:20 AM   #653
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i found the discovery channel program in its entirety on youtube but im having trouble embedding it. the crux of the show is describing how engineering difficulties were overcome on the 1200 km line and how meticulous they were about worker safety. Not a single worker died of high altitude sickness or contagious disease. They established very comprehensive mobile hospitals all along the way with some very sophisticated equipment.

I must say I'm very surprised considering China's reputation as a place where workers' lives are highly expendable and huge building projects usually cost as many lives as dollars. I mean think about all that extra medical equipment and trained staff that needed to be present. Wouldn't it have been much cheaper for workers to work till they die and find new ones? They could've saved so much money on their medical equipment but they didn't. Instead they made sure all the workers were healthy and received adequate medical care.

All those people complaining about human rights and labor abuses in China should really find out about the Qingzang rail project.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 11:51 AM   #654
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Chinese railway carries 196 mln passengers during Spring Festival travel season
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 09:11 PM   #655
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i found the discovery channel program in its entirety on youtube but im having trouble embedding it. the crux of the show is describing how engineering difficulties were overcome on the 1200 km line and how meticulous they were about worker safety. Not a single worker died of high altitude sickness or contagious disease. They established very comprehensive mobile hospitals all along the way with some very sophisticated equipment.

I must say I'm very surprised considering China's reputation as a place where workers' lives are highly expendable and huge building projects usually cost as many lives as dollars. I mean think about all that extra medical equipment and trained staff that needed to be present. Wouldn't it have been much cheaper for workers to work till they die and find new ones? They could've saved so much money on their medical equipment but they didn't. Instead they made sure all the workers were healthy and received adequate medical care.

All those people complaining about human rights and labor abuses in China should really find out about the Qingzang rail project.
I am surprised you think of China that way. I know media in the west like to portray China in its dimmest light, but I never know its that bad. The work market in China is like everywhere else. People applied for the job on the Qinghai tibet railway because the construction companies are willing to pay high salaries, and they can quit the job anytime they want if they felt their lives are intimidated. So off course hospitals are built alone the
rail to make sure people stay. China is not made up of a party and 1.3 billion slaves on their master's disposal. That's entirely not true. If you don't believe me, come and see by yourself. I guarantee you will find you will find China nowadays more capitalistic than North America and Europe.
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Old March 4th, 2008, 12:37 PM   #656
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I am surprised you think of China that way. I know media in the west like to portray China in its dimmest light, but I never know its that bad. The work market in China is like everywhere else. People applied for the job on the Qinghai tibet railway because the construction companies are willing to pay high salaries, and they can quit the job anytime they want if they felt their lives are intimidated. So off course hospitals are built alone the
rail to make sure people stay. China is not made up of a party and 1.3 billion slaves on their master's disposal. That's entirely not true. If you don't believe me, come and see by yourself. I guarantee you will find you will find China nowadays more capitalistic than North America and Europe.
Yes, well like I said, watching the documentary was a real eye-opener. If only BBC or CNN would report things like this. Whenever western media talks about Qinghai Tibet railway, they only talk about the environmental strains, the Tibetan protest, and how the railway is supposed to strengthen the 'evil' communist party's control over Tibet. They never mention how salaries were high for the workers and how worker safety was a top priority on the project. In fact, I got the vibe from the video that the hiring process was selective too and that only the most fit workers were chosen. Sadly, many westerners do believe that China is made up of a party and 1.3 billion slaves.
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Thanks, I already download the documantry from youtube
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Old March 5th, 2008, 09:56 PM   #658
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Qinghai-Tibet railway extensions necessary


March 04, 2008

Construction of Qinghai-Tibet railway extensions is "quite necessary", said Qiangba Puncog, chairman of Tibet Autonomous Region, on Tuesday.

"We will fully tap the potential of railway in the region, and we hope the extensions linking Lhasa to Xigaze and Nyingchi would bring more benefits to the Tibetan people," said Qiangba Puncog, who is a deputy to the 11th National People's Congress, China's top legislature.

The 1,956-km Qinghai-Tibet Railway has had profound influence on the Tibetan people since it was put into operation in July 2006,ending the history of the region without railway, noted the chairman.

Tourism industry in the landlocked plateau was greatly boosted, as Tibet chalked up 4 million plus of tourists in 2007, about 1 million more than estimated. Tourism revenue surged 73.3 percent year-on-year to 4.8 billion yuan (about 676 million U.S. dollars) last year, accounting for about 14 percent of the gross domestic product in the southwestern region.

The railway helped shorten regional difference in cost, drawing more investment to Tibet. Last year Tibet took in non-governmental investment of 8.45 billion yuan (about 1.2 billion U.S. dollars), 29 percent up from 2006.

"The railway also offered more job opportunities for local workforces, and people saw hope of faster development of Tibet," said Qiangba Puncog.

However, the vast region taking up one eighth of China's territory in size is still in need of capital for development, he said.

The legislator disclosed that preparations for the Lhasa-Xigaze railway had completed while the construction plan was undergoing approval from the central government.

The 254-km extension line, the first feeder for the Qinghai-Tibet Railway, is planned to start this year and expected to be completed in 2010, according to an earlier report.


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Work on Shanghai rail link to start soon
By Wang Zhenghua (China Daily)
Updated: 2008-03-07 07:56


Work on the high-speed rail link between Beijing and Shanghai will start anytime soon, Shanghai Railway Administration director Wu Qiang said yesterday.

The new line is expected to cut the travel time from 10 to 5 hours and strengthen the ties between the two major economic hubs of the Bohai Rim and the Yangtze River Delta.

Ticket prices have yet to be finalized, but the authorities will definitely consider passengers' affordability, Wu said.

Several shorter railway lines linking Shanghai and other cities in the Yangtze River Delta region that have also been approved will bring the country's major economic powerhouses closer, Wu said.

An expanded railway network could "help us handle disasters" such as the heavy snow before Spring Festival with greater ease, Wu said.

The Beijing-Shanghai railway, which will cost about 160 billion yuan ($21 billion), will double the transport capacity after its completion in 2013.

The National Development and Reform Commission, the country's top economic planning body, has approved plans to build a high-speed passenger railway to link Shanghai with Hangzhou, capital of Zhejiang province, and Nanjing and Nantong in Jiangsu province.

Work on the 39.45-billion-yuan ($5.52 billion) Shanghai-Nanjing line could start as soon as next month, Wu said. The line will be completed in four years and shorten travel time on the 300-km route from two hours to just 72 minutes.

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China-made bullet train to link Beijing, Tianjin in Aug
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Updated: 2008-03-09 22:13


BEIJING -- The first China-made bullet train designed to run at 300 kilometers per hour has completed a test run and will be in service between Beijing and Tianjin in early August, a railway official said on Sunday.

"A train prototype rolled off the production line in December and has completed a test run," said Shao Liping, director of the railway authority in Nanning, capital of the southern Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region.

The new train is expected to be running along a 117-km intercity railway beginning August 1, a week before the opening of the Beijing Olympic Games.

It will reduce the travel time between Beijing and Tianjin to around 30 minutes from the current 70 to 80 minutes, said Shao on the sidelines of the annual session of China's parliament.

Shao said the train, the latest model in the China Railway High-speed (CRH) Series, will be produced jointly by manufacturers in Qingdao of the eastern Shandong Province, and Tangshan of the northern Hebei Province.

In the meantime, Shao said Ministry of Science and Technology and Ministry of Railways are carrying out research on a 350-km-per-hour train for the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway that has been under discussion for years.

At present, China's fastest self-developed trains run at a service speed up to 250 km per hour. Those trains, which debuted last April, link Beijing with Harbin, Shanghai and Guangzhou.


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