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Old October 19th, 2008, 04:45 PM   #961
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Construction starts on portion of Beijing-Hong Kong rail line

BEIJING, Oct. 15 (Xinhua) -- Construction begins Wednesday on a high-speed passenger rail line linking Shijiazhuang, capital of north China's Hebei Province, and the Yangtze River port city Wuhan, the Ministry of Railways (MOR) said.

The 840.7-km long line is one part of a new 2,300-km route that connects Beijing with Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Hong Kong in south China.

The Shijiazhuan-Wuhan section is expected to open in four and a half years.

An estimated investment of 116.76 billion yuan (17.2 billion U.S. dollars) is needed for the project which will be jointly funded by the MOR and the governments of the Hebei, Henan and Hubei provinces.

The rail line is designed to run up to 350 km per hour. It will be able to transport 80 million passengers each year in one direction.

The new line section will have 14 stations, the MOR said.

Once complete, the entire Beijing-Guangzhou-Hongkong line will be almost parallel to the existing Beijing-Guangzhou line.

Construction on another section of railway, from Beijing to Shijiazhuang, kicked off a week ago. It should also be complete in four years, the MOR said.

Construction on the Wuhan to Guangzhou section started in June 2005. It is scheduled to begin operating in 2010.

The MOR wants to build 9,800 km of passenger rail lines in China as part of its five-year (2006-2010) plan.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 03:13 AM   #962
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China puts railways at heart of stimulus plan

BEIJING, Oct 18 (Reuters) - China is preparing steps to boost domestic demand, including more spending on railways, to help cushion the impact of the global credit crisis, a senior official said on Saturday.


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Zheng drew a parallel between the policy response now being drafted and the road-building programme that China launched to pump up the economy after the 1997/98 Asian financial crisis.

"Last time when we tried to boost domestic demand we built our highway system. This time we will probably build up our railway network," he said.
Wow, China gets it. They understand the importance of infrastructure investment to grow the economy and ensure prosperity. My, how the U.S. has fallen. It's all about tax cuts and spending cuts in America.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 06:05 AM   #963
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And foreign debt!

Hopefully the US Government will sort out the entire economy, rather than just put a bandaid over the large corporations that are responsible for many problems.

I'm very impressed by China building an HSR line all the way from Beijing to HK. Will they be terminating at Hung Hom station in Kowloon? Or follow the airport express line to Central? TST East?
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Old October 21st, 2008, 06:51 AM   #964
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And foreign debt!

Hopefully the US Government will sort out the entire economy, rather than just put a bandaid over the large corporations that are responsible for many problems.

I'm very impressed by China building an HSR line all the way from Beijing to HK. Will they be terminating at Hung Hom station in Kowloon? Or follow the airport express line to Central? TST East?
The HSR network in Guangdoing province is quite well established with express trains running between Guangzhou and Shenzhen already. Hong Kong is now constructing a new terminus in West Kowloon a block from Union Square and plans to build a dedicated HSR right of way to Shenzhen to link up with the mainland network. We expect future express trains into China will leave from West Kowloon instead of Hung Hom.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 08:20 AM   #965
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I took the train from Guangzhou East Station to Shenzhen just yesterday, it was very pleasant ride but I am not sure if it counts as high speed rail as the maximum speed was 200km/h. The whole jurney was just under 1 hour, trains are every 10 min. from 6:20 to 22:40.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 08:35 AM   #966
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^ I believe conventional high speed rail begins once the speed exceeds around 160 km/h, when special tracks / work on the tracks is needed to make higher speeds possible.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 11:59 AM   #967
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I've seen many different definitions of high speed rail, it's hard to say what is and isn't...but I"m sure the top speed of the entire HK - Guangzhou route will be 200km/h. I think a more important number is average speed, which is a hard number to find since everyone is concerned about top speed. Acela in the US has a top speed of 150mph, but an average of 80mph I think? The top speed qualifies as HSR, the average definitely does not.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 12:02 PM   #968
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I've seen many different definitions of high speed rail, it's hard to say what is and isn't...but I"m sure the top speed of the entire HK - Guangzhou route will be 200km/h. I think a more important number is average speed, which is a hard number to find since everyone is concerned about top speed. Acela in the US has a top speed of 150mph, but an average of 80mph I think? The top speed qualifies as HSR, the average definitely does not.
I look at it from a capacity perspective, specifically how fast the track can support (not the train). If that entire line can support a 'high' speed, then it is a high speed line.

Acela is a weird case, since there is a section of track that does not support high speeds, yet it is called a high speed railway - perhaps for relative reasons.
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Old October 22nd, 2008, 04:46 AM   #969
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Schenker rolls out Asia-Europe rail landbridge
20 October 2008
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Gemany’s DB Schenker plans to offer scheduled rail freight services to China beginning in February. The Trans Eurasia Express will operate two container trains weekly to link China with Germany in less than 20 days.

The service is operated in conjunction with of five other railways, including the Chinese and Russian national carriers, said Schenker, the transportation and logistics service provider of national rail carrier Deutsche Bahn.

The service will connect Shanghai and Beijing with Hamburg, Nuremberg and Duisburg. Schenker said the service has attracted interest from the automotive, chemical, engineering and paper industries, as well as manufacturers of household goods.
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Old October 22nd, 2008, 08:56 PM   #970
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Is there any HSR in China ?
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Old October 22nd, 2008, 10:38 PM   #971
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Is there any HSR in China ?
If you just kindly spend some times reading through the thread. Thanks.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 12:09 PM   #972
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Is there any HSR in China ?
There is Beijing-Tianjin HSR at 350km/h (fastest conventional train in regular service in the world), Qinhuangdao-Shenyang HSR at 250km/h, Guangzhou-Shenzhen HSR at 200km/h, and Shanghai maglev at 431km/h. And of course over 15 HSR lines U/C right now.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 05:05 PM   #973
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中国将加快两万亿铁路投资 应对危机
 核心提示:铁道部新闻发言人王勇平日前时表示,铁路新项目的投入会继续拉动经济增长。他表示目前国务院批复的铁路投资额已经达到2万亿元,未来随着实际情况的变化可能数字还将增加。
中国经济网10月24日报道 全球金融危机已经触及中国实体经济,增加固定投资一直是中国经济增长的主要动力。铁道部新闻发言人王勇平日前时表示,铁路新项目的投入,作为拉动经济增长的重要亮点,铁路部门已经做好了充分的准备。

他透露,在未来一段时间,中国将有很多重大项目投入施工。

王勇平称,现在国务院批复的铁路投资额已经达到2万亿元,其中在建项目的投资规模超过了1.2万亿。他特别指出,这些数字只是现在确定的数字,有的比"十一五"规划的数字已经有了提高,未来随着实际情况的变化,有些数字可能还会增加。

中共党中央政策研究室副主任郑新立在上周就曾表示,为了缓解全球信贷危机的冲击,中国正准备采取行动增加铁路投资,增加国内需求。郑新立提到,发改委正就铁路改革的细节进行研究。郑新立就当前正在起草的政策方案和1997-1998年亚洲金融危机后的公路建设项目做了对比。他说道,“上次我们建造公路体系来增加内需,这次我们很可能建造铁路网”。

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发改委原先公布的十一五规划中,中国将新建铁路线1.7万公里,合计固定投资总额为1.5万亿元。而由铁道部公布的数据看,2006年和2007年的基本建设投资(路轨、桥梁、车站等固定设施)总额分别为1550亿和1772亿元左右,合计3300亿左右,比原投资计划要略低
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Old October 25th, 2008, 10:19 AM   #974
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Gov't sets $300b for railway construction

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The State Council has approved 2 trillion yuan ($292 billion) for the construction of a series of railway projects, to help boost economic growth amid the worldwide financial crisis.

Increasing investment in fixed assets has remained a catalyst of China's economic development. By 2010, the total length of China's railway will reach 90,000 km, according to the Ministry of Railways.

A number of major railway projects will be started soon, www.ce.cn - the country's leading economic news portal - quoted Wang Yongping, spokesman for the Ministry of Railways, as saying on Friday.

About 1.2 trillion yuan has already been allocated, he said.

Zheng Xinli, a senior government policy advisor, said: "In 1997, we dealt with the Asian financial crisis by stimulating domestic economic growth by investing in the construction of highways. This time the money will go on improving the rail network."

The National Development and Reform Commission is developing plans to improve the country's railway systems, he said.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 04:21 PM   #975
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wuhan-guangzhou high speed railway 350km/h (u/c)

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Old October 25th, 2008, 05:46 PM   #976
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Thank you for these pictures .
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Old October 25th, 2008, 06:23 PM   #977
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china railway plans update

1.bold red lines: PDL(passenger dedicated line 350km/h,beijing~shanghai:380km/h) already U/C or planned
2.bold blue lines:PDL new added to the plan
3.red lines:conventional line(200km/h or 160+km/h) already U/C or planned
4.blue lines:conventional line new added to the plan
5.black lines:line already finished construction
6.dashed blue lines:under discussion
7.others you need not to know natonal secret

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Old October 25th, 2008, 06:31 PM   #978
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It's too big and too bright, really hard to see.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 01:44 AM   #979
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Map is old, many of the railways marked as u/c have been finished.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 02:06 AM   #980
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Good to hear about the $292 billion for railway construction in China.

China is catching up
1. European Union 236,436 km year-2007
2. United States 226,612 km year-2005
3. Russia 87,157km year-2006
4. China 75,438km year-2005
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