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Old December 8th, 2008, 06:31 AM   #1061
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^ what trains will be used? Is it those CRH?
Very likely to be CRH2-XXXE (or if it is not then it'll be something close like D) which is the sleeper train version of the 350km/h CRH2-XXXC.


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Old December 8th, 2008, 02:53 PM   #1062
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China to Invest 150 Bln Yuan in Railways in Shanxi Province


2008-12-07


China plans to invest more than 150 billion yuan (21.9 billion U.S. dollars) in its northern coal-rich Shanxi Province by 2015, according to officials from the Ministry of Railways and the province.

Shanxi, accounting for one-third of China's coal output, is expected to have 5,300 km of railways by 2015, up from 3,300 km at present, said Yang Zhongmin, head of the ministry's department of development and planning, at a meeting here in the capital of Shanxi on Saturday evening.

Construction will start in the first half of 2009 on at least three new rail lines, according to the meeting.

Minister of Railways Liu Zhijun pledged the ministry's support for the projects.

Zhang Baoshun, Secretary of the Shanxi provincial committee of the Communist Party of China, said the projects would play a positive role in boosting domestic demand amid the global financial crisis.

Zhang said the province's coal could be shipped directly to coastal ports in Shandong Province with the construction of a railway in the mid-southern part of Shanxi.

http://english.cri.cn/3130/2008/12/07/1601s430597.htm
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Old December 9th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #1063
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Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railroad nears completion

2008-12-07


BEIJING -- The Ministry of Railways (MOR) said here on Sunday that the world's longest high-speed rail line, connecting the capital and Shanghai, is nearing completion.

MOR spokesman Wang Yongping said 91 percent of the track length, or 1,203 km, has been completed. Remaining major tasks include bridges over the Huaihe and Yangtze rivers and the main terminal in Shanghai, he said. More than 110,000 workers are busy with the remainder of the project.
Trains will take less than five hours to make the run, which is now at least 11 hours.

The MOR has said it plans to have 120,000 km of rail lines in service by 2020, of which 16,000 km would be dedicated to only passenger services.

By the end of this year, China will have more than 79,000 km of rail lines. To meet the 2020 target will require about 5 trillion yuan (US$732 billion), the MOR said.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...nt_7279166.htm
I thought news articles said that this broke ground only this year...how could it be nearly done already? 1200km HSR done in 1 year?
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:30 AM   #1064
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I had the same question. Is this news correct?
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:35 AM   #1065
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Around 24th of November, Shanghai Daily reported about the debut of this Shanghai-Beijing line around this month or early next year, so for the time being, we suppose that this news is correct. And plus I think Shanghai want to have everything in place and ready for the Expo 2010.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:40 AM   #1066
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what can I say? This must be a record. 1200km high speed, passenger dedicated railway in a year... wow!
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:45 AM   #1067
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I still can not believe it, it's the same 350kmh Shanghai-Beijing rail? isn't it supposed to finish by 2012-2013? I remember the project starting ceremony was held only a couple of month ago.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 04:06 AM   #1068
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Already? No way.

Just a few days ago we had reports of a new 9 hour sleeper, not 350km/h HSR.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 04:12 AM   #1069
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I still can not believe it, it's the same 350kmh Shanghai-Beijing rail? isn't it supposed to finish by 2012-2013? I remember the project starting ceremony was held only a couple of month ago.
In September, 80% of the track was completed that is 1,059 km within 5 months.

Nearly 100,000 workers and engineers are involved in the US$31.6 billion project, and they will use 21,000 pieces of machinery, according to the leading group of the project.

http://en.chinagate.com.cn/news/2008...t_16502982.htm

There were many changes regarding to this project, 2006, the planned operation speed for this line was just 200kmph and the construction was meant to start in 2006 .

In 2007, the intended completion year was forecasted to be in 2013 and not in time for the Expo 2010.

Ground-breaking ceremony of the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway was on April 18, 2008.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_8002058.htm
The whole railway is said to be completed in 5 years, but it seems like everything will be fully operational by next year.

Trains would run at speeds of 350 km per hour. China's first domestically produced train, able to reach 350 kilometers per hour.All the technological equipments for the self-designed line was produced by domestic companies.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 04:12 AM   #1070
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Already? No way.

Just a few days ago we had reports of a new 9 hour sleeper, not 350km/h HSR.
it's a sleeper. you heard right.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 10:30 AM   #1071
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@02tonyl. Thanks for the info.

Hope everything works fine. It'll be a miracle is it can be in opertaion by 2010.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 11:22 AM   #1072
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The linked story says construction has started on 80% of the line, not that it is completed.

In light of things like http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...nt_6988059.htm it seems too far fetched to me.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 01:46 PM   #1073
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They're not true, here's another article that clears up the confusion:

Beijing-Shanghai HSR: 91% Done (Well, Almost, That Is)

91% of the Beijing-Shanghai High-Speed Railway done! (If you take just the cursory-est glances at the headlines, you sure feel that way.) Wow-ee, now that was fast.

We certainly hope it was the case. Actually, word's out that works have just begun at the 91% stretch. That means that work is but merely beginning. It'll take quite a while for the whole thing to be built -- bridges, tracks, the whole thingamajig.

We hope works begin on the remaining 9% real soon. By the way, when the Beijing-Shanghai HSR is finally done in 2012-2013-ish, rail travel between the Jing and Shanghai will be cut down to 5 hours or less at speeds exceeding 350 km/h. The Beijing-Shanghai HSR will join its Beijing-Tianjin brethren at the Beijing South Railway Station.

What a difference it'll make once you hop off Subway Line 4 and jump on the HSR...

http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijin...lmost-that-is/
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Old December 9th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #1074
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I would hardly use City Weekend as a source for these kinds of news though (rather, entertainment related news, like Shanghaiist etc.).
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Old December 9th, 2008, 11:11 PM   #1075
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Great job China. YOu are smart to invest in high speed and conventional passenger rail. In America, we are nearly incapable of investing in such projects because we think trains are communist and that God loves to burn oil and coal and drive on roads.
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Old December 10th, 2008, 01:54 AM   #1076
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So 91% of the work is done but some complex bridges etc means it won't be ready until 2013? WTF?

Why would they throw 100,000 people at it with associated cost, only for those sections to sit around idle for 4 or 5 years?

Let's see some pics.
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Old December 10th, 2008, 02:53 AM   #1077
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I would hardly use City Weekend as a source for these kinds of news though (rather, entertainment related news, like Shanghaiist etc.).
I agree, such news source only give me headaches with all the satire and sarcasm sometimes and hard to tell if they are being serious or not.
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Old December 10th, 2008, 03:08 AM   #1078
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Plus they don't always have their facts straight about these kinds of things. Not that "normal media" by any extent is very reliable either, but City Weekend/Shanghaiist etc. don't even have to pretend to be doing any research...
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Old December 13th, 2008, 06:12 PM   #1079
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CRH-5 Highspeed Trains

The China Railways CRH5 is an electric multiple unit high-speed train in use by China Railway High-speed. China Railways has contracted Alstom to assemble 60 sets, which are based on Pendolino trains used in Finland. The CRH5 are non-tilting trains.



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China Railway Signs 5 Construction Contracts Worth CNY5.84B
9 December 2008

HONG KONG (Dow Jones)--China Railway Group Ltd. (0390.HK) said Tuesday it recently signed five rail construction projects worth a total of CNY5.84 billion.

China Railway, the world's third-largest construction contractor by revenue, said it signed construction contracts for rail links in Chinese cities including Chongqing, Xian and Wuhan.

It said the contracts are equivalent to 3.24% of its 2007 core revenue.

China Railway Group, which is listed in Shanghai and Hong Kong, has built over two-thirds of China's more than 75,000 kilometers of railway links and 95% of the country's electrified railway lines. It also builds expressways, bridges and tunnels.
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