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Old January 26th, 2009, 06:41 AM   #1181
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I am totally agree with you. Generally, West has a biased view of China. You can see it clearly at bbc.com. Probably, some of you guys have already red some the stuff written by James Reynolds. He has a blog on the web site called James Reynolds' China. He writes about China and almost exclusively write about how China fails over and over on every subject. Even stories like Chinese space studies or Olympics written in a way that China is the biggest loser on Earth.

I hope one day CCTV hire a guy who writes about how Britain still has a Queen bla bla every day...
I think you can watch Hong Kong's News write about Mainland China. (eg. Southa China Morining Post), or watching like TVB Pearl, they have neutral view of Mainland China.

I heard many people in Pearl River Delta District like to watch HK News than CCTV because HK News is more reality to show Mainland China. (Although many news is cut by local transfer TV stations).
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Old January 28th, 2009, 03:47 AM   #1182
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Just let these western racists write whatever they want. Their own countries are the ones that are going bankrupt.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 05:21 AM   #1183
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it's written by the French. they have a right to whine. Their country is being boycotted by China, right from the head of state level.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 02:32 AM   #1184
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Thyssen to Explore Selling Transrapid Technology to China

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Jan. 29, 2009 (Bloomberg) -- ThyssenKrupp AG agreed to explore selling its Transrapid rail technology to China to expand the only commercial operation of the high-speed magnetic train. Executives of ThyssenKrupp Technologies AG and Shanghai Maglev Transportation Development Co. signed the letter of intent today in Berlin during a visit by Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao. The goal is to license some Transrapid technology for use in China. “Worldwide rights for the core technology will remain with ThyssenKrupp,” company spokeswoman Cosima Rauner said in a telephone interview.

China is considering extending a 30-kilometer (19-mile) Transrapid line that links Shanghai and its Pudong International Airport in less than eight minutes. Plans call for adding a 31- kilometer stretch in another part of the city, Rauner said. “This is a strategic step to improve our global marketing chances,” she said of the license talks. She declined to speculate on how much China might pay or how long talks may take.

The magnetically propelled train floats 1 centimeter (0.4 inch) above the track and travels at up to 500 kilometers (310 miles) per hour.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 05:45 AM   #1185
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ThyssenKrupp is just wasting their time and money trying to market snake oil...uh...I mean magnetic trains.

There's a reason why China decided not to build the Beijing/Shanghai HSR as maglev but as steel wheel trains.
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Old January 30th, 2009, 10:41 AM   #1186
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East China province to boost railway construction

2009-01-30

NANCHANG, Jan. 30 (Xinhua) -- East China's Jiangxi Province is planning to kick off 14 railway projects by 2012 to improve transportation conditions, the local railway authority said Friday.

The projects, involving an estimated investment of 116.52 billion yuan (17 billion U.S. dollars), will bring Jiangxi's total rail length to 3,500 kilometers upon completion.

According to a railway construction plan compiled by the provincial development and reform commission late last year, the province is expected to have 4,000 km of railway by 2015 and more than 4,500 km by 2020.

According to the plan, railways are expected to reach all the province's counties, main tourist destinations and key industrial and mining zones as well as economically-developed towns by 2020.

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Old February 1st, 2009, 05:45 AM   #1187
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China to hike '09 local steel rail orders -paper

BEIJING, Jan 24 (Reuters) - China's railway ministry will nearly double this year the amount of rails it orders from four big domestic steel makers, as part of an infrastructure drive to shore up industry, an industry newspaper reported on Saturday.

The Ministry of Railways sent requests for a total of 3.25 million tonnes of steel rail to units under Baoshan Iron and Steel Co Ltd , Angang Steel Co Ltd , PZH Steel , and Wuhan Iron & Steel (Group) Co, the report in the China Metallurgical News said.

The orders would be a big jump on 2008, when the ministry called for 1.88 million tons, said the paper.

"According to industry estimates, railway infrastructure investment in 2009 will require 20 million tonnes of steel," including the rails, the report said.

The four makers would have to use much of their rail-making capacity to fill the order, it added.

"There are limits to increasing production capacity for steel rails," an unidentified sales manager under PZH Steel told the paper.

The report said the unit under PZH Steel expects 750,000 tonnes of the planned rail orders, and Angang Steel expects 700,000 tonnes. But it did not give details for the other producers.

Nor did it say how much the ministry would pay, noting that in 2008 prices it set were about 1,000 yuan ($146) per tonne less than general market prices.

The Ministry of Railways is one of the big beneficiaries of Beijing's plans to boost flagging growth by pumping state investment into transport and other infrastructure.

It has said it plans to invest 600 billion yuan ($88 billion) in 2009, up from 350 billion yuan ($51 billion). The Ministry is now building 150 key projects, the report said.

Another official newspaper, the Economic Daily, reported that the government had already approved projects amounting to 23,000 kilometres (14,292 miles) of railway.

The biggest of the Chinese steel makers in the order, Baoshan Iron and Steel, can produce 1.4 million tonnes of rail a year, the report said. ($1=6.83 yuan)
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Old February 1st, 2009, 11:49 PM   #1188
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ThyssenKrupp is just wasting their time and money trying to market snake oil...uh...I mean magnetic trains.

There's a reason why China decided not to build the Beijing/Shanghai HSR as maglev but as steel wheel trains.

I still think it is the fastest way for transport on land. I believe it will find use in not far future.

If China buys this tech, I think the possibility of them using it for building longer routes is high.
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 12:26 AM   #1189
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I still think it is the fastest way for transport on land. I believe it will find use in not far future.
It's the fastest land transport method, but there is very little marginal benefit over just steel and rails.

The technology is 40 years old now, and there is still nothing in commercial use apart from the white elephant tonka train in Pudong.

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If China buys this tech, I think the possibility of them using it for building longer routes is high.
If China experiences problems of NIMBYism with this technology, then it won't fly anywhere else in the world.
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 08:42 AM   #1190
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I don't foresee China adapting maglev technology much further until the costs go down. It's just not worth spending the extra tens of billions for the speed benefit. I think that was a major driver behind the decision to use conventional HSR for Beijing - Shanghai.
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 11:40 AM   #1191
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China to hike '09 local steel rail orders -paper

BEIJING, Jan 24 (Reuters) - China's railway ministry will nearly double this year the amount of rails it orders from four big domestic steel makers, as part of an infrastructure drive to shore up industry, an industry newspaper reported on Saturday.

The Ministry of Railways sent requests for a total of 3.25 million tonnes of steel rail to units under Baoshan Iron and Steel Co Ltd , Angang Steel Co Ltd , PZH Steel , and Wuhan Iron & Steel (Group) Co, the report in the China Metallurgical News said.

The orders would be a big jump on 2008, when the ministry called for 1.88 million tons, said the paper.

"According to industry estimates, railway infrastructure investment in 2009 will require 20 million tonnes of steel," including the rails, the report said.

The four makers would have to use much of their rail-making capacity to fill the order, it added.

"There are limits to increasing production capacity for steel rails," an unidentified sales manager under PZH Steel told the paper.

The report said the unit under PZH Steel expects 750,000 tonnes of the planned rail orders, and Angang Steel expects 700,000 tonnes. But it did not give details for the other producers.

Nor did it say how much the ministry would pay, noting that in 2008 prices it set were about 1,000 yuan ($146) per tonne less than general market prices.

The Ministry of Railways is one of the big beneficiaries of Beijing's plans to boost flagging growth by pumping state investment into transport and other infrastructure.

It has said it plans to invest 600 billion yuan ($88 billion) in 2009, up from 350 billion yuan ($51 billion). The Ministry is now building 150 key projects, the report said.

Another official newspaper, the Economic Daily, reported that the government had already approved projects amounting to 23,000 kilometres (14,292 miles) of railway.

The biggest of the Chinese steel makers in the order, Baoshan Iron and Steel, can produce 1.4 million tonnes of rail a year, the report said. ($1=6.83 yuan)
Good news for the Australian economy.
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 06:00 PM   #1192
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HEILONGJIANG TO SPEND US$3 BLN ON RAILWAY CONSTRUCTION IN 2009

HARBIN, Feb 2 Asia Pulse - Heilongjiang Province in Northeast China plans to invest 22 billion yuan (US$3.216 billion) in railway construction this year.

Covered in the plan will be continued construction of the Harbin-Dalian passenger railway, construction of new railways from Harbin-Qiqihar, from Mudanjiang to Suifenhe, from Qianjin Town to Fuyuan and from Gulian to Luoguhe, totaling 630 km, as well as such key projects as Harbin West Station and Harbin Container Terminal.

Meanwhile, pre-stage preparations will be made for the Harbin-Jiamusi-Tongjiang and Harbin-Mudanjiang express railways.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 12:07 AM   #1193
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What is so racist about that article? I have traveled in Germany during peak holiday periods and in China to the Canton Fair. The supposedly very comfortable trip to the Canton Fair in fact is less comfortable than commuting in Hong Kong and in Germany. Yes, you may have to stand for the entire rail trip during the peak travel seaons in Germany, but the whole experience that involves standing is just very civilized. If you cannot buy a train ticket in Germany for travel during the peak travel seaons, you drive, car pool, fly or whatever. The whole transport system in Germany allows the entire traveling population to travel with a comparatively high level of comfort and dignity even during the busiest time of the year.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 04:42 AM   #1194
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Railways brace for post-festival travel peak

BEIJING, Jan. 30 (Xinhua) -- China's railways will see the first post-Spring Festival travel peak on Saturday, as millions ride back to work or study after days of family reunions or sightseeing, said the Ministry of Railways (MOR) on Friday.

Railways carried 4.24 million passengers on Thursday, 11.2 percent more than Wednesday, with mid- and long-distance trips rising 23 percent, said the MOR office in charge of Spring Festival transport.

To meet the growing travel demand, the MOR would arrange more trains for busy hubs in such provinces as Sichuan, Hunan, Hubei and Jiangxi, said the office.

Altogether 562 temporary trains were put to use on Thursday, 190 more than the previous day.

The MOR also urged railway officials to better organize transport and ticket selling in order not to get passengers stranded.

In the first 19 days of the 40-day festival rush period starting from Jan. 11, 83.1 million trips were made on the country's railways, said the office.

That was 4.37 million on average every day, or 16 percent more than the same period of last year.

The Spring Festival, or the Chinese Lunar New Year, is the most important traditional festival in China. It falls on Jan. 26 this year.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 06:52 AM   #1195
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China Railway Group Expects 2008 Net Profit To Fall Over 50%
22 January 2009

HONG KONG (Dow Jones)--China Railway Group Ltd. (0390.HK), the country's largest railway operator, said Thursday it expects its 2008 net profit to fall by more than 50%, as foreign-exchange losses offset revenue growth from new contracts.

The company said in October it incurred CNY1.94 billion worth of foreign-exchange losses on structured deposits as of Sept. 30. because of a sharp decline in the Australian dollar.

China Railway Group, which is listed in Shanghai and Hong Kong, has built over two-thirds of China's more than 75,000 kilometers of railway links and 95% of the country's electrified railway lines. It also builds expressways, bridges and tunnels.

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Old February 3rd, 2009, 06:59 PM   #1196
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what % of the chinese lines is electrified?
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Old February 4th, 2009, 06:22 AM   #1197
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what % of the chinese lines is electrified?
By October 2008, China has built 26,000km electrified lines, 32.7% of total rail length.

The target is to reach 50% by 2012.

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In 2008, the National Railway completed capital construction investment of RMB 3,300 billion yuan, the new line of track-laying 3,370 km, 2,860 km double track to complete 2,630 km of electrified railway. The beginning of this year has just been completed in accordance with the national railway work conference in 2009 plans to complete infrastructure investment of RMB 6,000 billion, laying 5,150 kilometers of new lines, 3,460 km double track to complete 5,610 km of electrified railway.

In 2009 for railway investment growth is expected to peak, and from 2010 to 2012 the average annual investment will be RMB 6,000 billion yuan. Is expected that in 2012, the national railway business mileage will reach 110,000 kilometers, the railway needs are basically met. In addition, the electrification rate will reach more than 50 percent, rail transport will be to upgrade the quality of service.
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Old February 4th, 2009, 04:42 PM   #1198
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Old February 5th, 2009, 09:37 AM   #1199
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By October 2008, China has built 26,000km electrified lines, 32.7% of total rail length.

The target is to reach 50% by 2012.



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hmmm.. i thought it was higher.

I must be wrong.
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Old February 6th, 2009, 10:09 PM   #1200
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Work to start on Shanghai-Hangzhou rail line by late March

2009-02-06

Construction will start by late March on a new passenger rail line between Shanghai and Hangzhou, a scenic city in east China's Zhejiang Province, a rail official said Friday.

The exact starting date for construction work won't be known until the National Development and Reform Commission, the nation's chief planning agency, approves a report on the project, according to Yu Jian'er, chairman of the board and general manager of Zhejiang Provincial Railway Investment Group Co Ltd.

The report was submitted on Dec 15, 2008, said Yu, and approval was likely in mid-February this year. Construction is forecast to take two years.

The line will be 159 km long, with 105 km in Zhejiang. Trains on the line will be able to run up to 350 km per hour, shortening the trip from Shanghai to Hangzhou to 38 minutes from more than one hour at present.

Yu confirmed that the Ministry of Railways, Shanghai, Zhejiang and Baosteel Group would invest in the project, which will cost 29.68 billion yuan ($4.37 billion).

Baosteel will invest about 2 billion yuan, with the ministry, Shanghai and Zhejiang sharing the rest of the cost equally.

Zhejiang Provincial Railway owns all railways in the province and will take charge of related operations.

A notice on the website of the company said the ministries of Environmental Protection and Land and Resources had approved the environmental impact and land use plans for the project on Jan 21.

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