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Old March 25th, 2009, 10:17 AM   #1341
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Appreciate the extensive info from Derek in post #1180, that's exactly what I was looking for.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 11:30 AM   #1342
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350 km/h PDL line
Beijing - Tianjin 120 km, opend in 2008
Wuhan - Guangzhou 989 km, will open in 2009
Zhengzhou - Xi'an 484.518 km, will open in 2009
Beijing - Shijiazhuang 269.65 km, will open in 2010

Source: http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=958110
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350 km/h PDL line
Beijing - Tianjin 118 km, opend in 2008
Wuhan - Guangzhou 968 km, will open in 2009
Zhengzhou - Xi'an 456 km, will open in 2009
Guangzhou - Shenzhen 105 km, will open in 2010
Shanghai - Hangzhou 160 km, will open in 2010
Beijing - Shanghai 1318 km, will open in 2011
Nanjing - Hangzhou 249 km, will open in 2011
Hangzhou - Ningbo 150 km, will open in 2011
Harbin - Dalian 904 km, will open in 2011
Beijing - Shijiazhuang 278 km, will open in 2012
Shijiazhuang - Zhengzhou - Wuhan 838 km, will open in 2012
Tianjin - Qinhuangdao 258 km, will open in 2012

250 km/h line
Qinhuangdao - Shenyang 404 km, opened in 2003
Hefei - Nanjing 156 km, opened in 2008
Hefei - Wuhan 357 km, opened in 2009
Shijiazhuang - Taiyuan 189 km, opened in 2009
Ningbo - Wenzhou 282 km, will open in 2009
Wenzhou - Fuzhou 298 km will open in 2009
Fuzhou - Xiamen 273 km, will open in 2009
Jinan - Qingdao 366 km, will open in in 2009
Nanchang - Jiujiang 131 km, will open in 2010
Shanghai - Nanjing 300 km, will open in 2010
Haikou - Sanya 297 km, will open in 2010
Changchun - Jilin 109 km, will open in 2011
Xiamen -Shenzhen 501 km, will open in 2011
Wuhan - Yichang 292 km, will open in 2011
Nanjing - Anqing 250 km, will open in 2012
Nanning - Guangzhou 577 km, will open in 2012
Nanning - Hengyang 724 km, will open in 2012
Chongqing - Lichuan 244 km, will open in 2012
Fuzhou - Putian 604, will open in 2012
Guiyang - Guangzhou 857 km, will open in 2012

200 km/h line
Lichuan - Yichang 288 km, will open in 2010

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Old March 25th, 2009, 12:39 PM   #1343
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Accurate version:

350 km/h PDL line
Beijing - Tianjin 118 km, opend in 2008
Wuhan - Guangzhou 968 km, will open in 2009
Zhengzhou - Xi'an 456 km, will open in 2009
Guangzhou - Shenzhen 105 km, will open in 2010
Shanghai - Hangzhou 160 km, will open in 2010
Beijing - Shanghai 1318 km, will open in 2011
Nanjing - Hangzhou 249 km, will open in 2011
Hangzhou - Ningbo 150 km, will open in 2011
Harbin - Dalian 904 km, will open in 2011
Beijing - Shijiazhuang 278 km, will open in 2012
Shijiazhuang - Zhengzhou - Wuhan 838 km, will open in 2012
Tianjin - Qinhuangdao 258 km, will open in 2012
Seeing that the inaccurate version had been:
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350 km/h PDL line
Beijing - Tianjin 120 km, opend in 2008
Wuhan - Guangzhou 989 km, will open in 2009
Zhengzhou - Xi'an 484.518 km, will open in 2009
Beijing - Shijiazhuang 269.65 km, will open in 2010
Nanjing - Hangzhou 249 km, will open in 2011
Guangzhou - Hongkong 142 km, will open in 2011
Shanghai - Hangzhou 160 km, will open in 2012
Beijing - Shenyang 687 km, will open in 2012
Shijiazhuang - Wuhan 840.7 km, will open in 2012
Tianjin - Qinhuangdao 258 km, will open in 2012
Chengdu - Chongqing 294 km, will Open in 2013
Beijing - Shanghai 1318 km, will open in 2013
Harbin - Dalian 904 km, will open in 2013
can anyone confirm cancellation of Beijing-Shenyang?
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Old March 25th, 2009, 01:45 PM   #1344
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can anyone confirm cancellation of Beijing-Shenyang?
In China, those who have already started the construction of railway projects usually identified, usually will not be delayed, so can easily be estimated from the start date of completion date. But those who are in the preparation phase of the project, in general preparation period are of varying lengths, probably a few months, but also probably in two or three years, no one can predict what time to start, and therefore can not predict when will be completed. So that I have listed projects are already started. Those who are in the preparation stage, the project has not yet been started are not listed. Beijing-Shenyang HSL is.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 02:31 PM   #1345
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Here are some data on the Bombardier Zefiro ^.^b
http://www.superscooper.com/en/1_0/p...ription_en.pdf
Compared to its competitors (the French/German Japanese/Korean HSTs, etc) it seems outdated and under-perfoming).
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Old March 25th, 2009, 06:53 PM   #1346
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can anyone confirm cancellation of Beijing-Shenyang?
here's some recent Chinese news: (pretty positive)

On 3/9/2009

Beijing-Shenyang express rail to start construction in 2009

(http://content.caixun.com/NE/01/7f/NE017fm8.shtmhttp)


On 3/19/2009

Harbin-Dalian express rail construction will speed up.

The project may be finished 1.5 years ahead of schedule, mainly due to the early finish of some tunnel work.
(http://travel.runsky.com/2009-03/20/content_2907497.htm)
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Old March 25th, 2009, 07:26 PM   #1347
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High-speed rails to slash travel time

2009-03-25

Two high-speed railways opening on April 1 will dramatically slash travel time between the hinterland and the coastal regions, a senior railway official said yesterday.

Stretching more than 350 km, the Hefei-Wuhan passenger railway, along with the Hefei-Nanjing lines opened last year, will provide the shortest link between Central China and East China's Yangtze River Delta region.



"Riding a bullet train at 250 kph from Wuhan to Nanjing will need less than three hours, almost eight hours less than now," said Zhang Shuguang, chief of the transportation department of the Ministry of Railways.

Passengers traveling from Wuhan to Shanghai will also benefit, with travel time cut in half to only four hours and 45 minutes, he said.

The other new high-speed railway is the 190-km Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan railway linking the north and the west.

Zhang said the travel time between the capital cities of Hebei and Shanxi provinces will be cut from five hours to only one. Passengers traveling between Taiyuan and Beijing will need only three hours, a saving of more than five hours.

Airlines and bus companies, feeling the pinch from the new railways, are cutting prices.

Wuhan-based Chutian Metropolis News reported that discounts of up to 70 percent will be given to flights from Wuhan to Shanghai starting April 1. The cost of a bus ticket will be reduced from 185 yuan ($27) to 90 yuan tomorrow.

Starting next month, the ministry will add 89 pairs of passenger trains on a number of popular routes, increasing passenger capacity by 10.6 percent, Zhang said.

The ministry is also considering selling train tickets by phone and via the Internet, with regions such as Guangdong and Chongqing piloting the practices, he said.

China opened its first high-speed railway, the 350-kph Beijing-Tianjin route, last year.

At present, 200 bullet trains are zipping through major cities in China, Zhang said, with 600 more expected to be on the tracks by 2012, when China's high-speed rail network takes shape and securing a train ticket in peak travel seasons will no longer be a problem.

Some of the bullet trains will have sleepers for travelers.

In December, the ministry put such trains on the Beijing-Shanghai and Beijing-Hangzhou railways, charging a record 600 to 700 yuan for a sleeper ticket.

While many doubted the popularity of such trains, Zhang said an average occupancy rate of 70 percent is good enough.

"Passengers will see more half-empty trains than crowded ones in the future, thanks to the progress of longer railways and better and faster trains," he said.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...nt_7615623.htm
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Old March 26th, 2009, 05:02 AM   #1348
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It's complete. Just around 6 months out of date.

Most of the 300 km/h blues should be U/C. Additional line from Shijiazhuang to Tianjin. And I refuse to believe that every training coming into Bejing from Dongbei (north eastern provinces) must pass through Tianjin to get to Beijing. If there isn't something planned for Qinghuangdao to Beijing, I really hope there will be.
it's probably because of the terrain, they cannot really make a fast Qinghuangdao-Beijing HSR.
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Old March 26th, 2009, 07:22 AM   #1349
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here's some recent Chinese news: (pretty positive)

On 3/9/2009

Beijing-Shenyang express rail to start construction in 2009

(http://content.caixun.com/NE/01/7f/NE017fm8.shtmhttp)


On 3/19/2009

Harbin-Dalian express rail construction will speed up.

The project may be finished 1.5 years ahead of schedule, mainly due to the early finish of some tunnel work.
(http://travel.runsky.com/2009-03/20/content_2907497.htm)
Original Writing is "strive to start construction in 2009"(力争09年全面开工), pay attention to the word "strive", indicating the date of construction is not determined. The media and leaders usually enjoy bragging, do not trust them, unless the construction teams have been selected through tender.
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Old March 26th, 2009, 02:18 PM   #1350
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In recognition of the role of railway development in promoting economic growth and reducing poverty, the Asian Development Bank (ADB) has provided 14 loans in the sector since 1989 covering 15 provinces for a total of about $3.0 billion. Of these projects, eight are complete, two are operating commercially and four are under construction. These projects have had positive impacts in terms of increasing personal incomes, creating jobs, industrializing rural areas, generating local government revenue, developing tourism, improving housing, protecting the environment, and increasing the participation of women and ethnic minorities in economic activities.

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Old March 26th, 2009, 04:42 PM   #1351
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350 km/h PDL line
Beijing - Tianjin 118 km, opend in 2008
Wuhan - Guangzhou 968 km, will open in 2009
Zhengzhou - Xi'an 456 km, will open in 2009
The Zhengzhou-Xi'an PDL will be opened on December 28, 2009. This line includes the longest bridge in the world, the Wei River Grand Bridge, which is 79.7 km long, over twice longer than the Hangzhou Bay Bridge.
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Old March 26th, 2009, 04:50 PM   #1352
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The Zhengzhou-Xi'an PDL will be opened on December 28, 2009. This line includes the longest bridge in the world, the Wei River Grand Bridge, which is 79.7 km long, over twice longer than the Hangzhou Bay Bridge.
are you serious? any photos?
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Old March 26th, 2009, 04:55 PM   #1353
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are you serious? any photos?
Here's some:

http://www.moobol.com/ms/2699/live269925.shtml
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Old March 26th, 2009, 06:28 PM   #1354
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omg
there are high-speed railways everywhere...

but my mind has just been staying at that it's just some privilege for Beijing and Tianjin...cant believe it
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Old March 26th, 2009, 06:45 PM   #1355
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20.03.2009
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German industrial company Siemens AG has received a 750 million euro (US$1 billion) order for its share of a contract to deliver 100 high-speed trains to China. "Siemens has secured five of the last six contracts on the high speed rail market over 300 kmh (188 mph)" in China, the Munich-based conglomerate said in a statement on Friday, March 20.

Siemens said it signed a deal with Tangshan Railway Vehicles Co. Ltd., Changchun Railway Vehicles Co. Ltd., and the Chinese Academy of Railways to supply components like electrical equipment and chassis to the project. The German part of production will take place in Krefeld-Uerdingen and Nuremberg, Germany; Graz, Austria; and Shanghai, Tianjin and Jinan, China.

The first trains for the new Bejing-Shanghai route will be operational by late 2010. "The deal strengthens our long-term partnerships in what will be the biggest high-speed train market in the world," said Siemens executive Hans-Jörg Grundmann in Erlangen on Friday.

The company will supply components for the Velaro trains, which will be assembled in China. The Velaro is a development of Siemens' successful ICE model used in Germany and has a total length of 400 meters, making it world's longest single train used in high-speed transportation. The trains would run at 350 kmh (218 mph) and make the 1318-kilometer (825 mile) run from Beijing to Shanghai in four hours. The Chinese trains will comprise 16 cars and carry around 1060 passengers each.

According to Hans-Jörg Grundmann the order was especially important because it meant supplying the first trains for a line from Beijing to Shanghai. "This is the most important high speed line in the country," he said.

China plans to create the largest high-speed network in the world, Siemens added, and future connections between Wuhan and Guangzhou, and Wuhan and Shijazhuang would also use Siemens' Valero trains. "Altogether, the network of these lines will cover a total distance of approximately 16,000 kilometers (10,000 miles) by the year 2020," the statement said.

Siemens has already delivered 11 high-speed trains to China out of an earlier order in 2004 for 60.

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Siemens will adapt its ICE model for China
Chinese Railway department unveiled that this news was fabricated. There was on contract with Siemens but maybe CNR will import some parts from Siemens.

Source: http://news.sina.com.cn/o/2009-03-26...5372153s.shtml
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Old March 27th, 2009, 06:02 AM   #1356
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I think it might be more appropriate to say elevated railway instead of a bridge. But anyway, it looks great.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 07:51 AM   #1357
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Deutsche Bahn to build railroad to China from Mongolia

Friday, March 27, 2009

Deutsche Bahn AG, Germany's state- owned railway, is planning to build a 260-kilometer railroad for coal transport from southern Mongolia to China, according to an agreement signed with Mongolia-based Energy Resources LLC on Thursday, Bloomberg reported.

Deutsche Bahn will start constructing the railroad this year, with the first trains due to run by 2011, the company said in a statement.

Investment in the project is estimated to $800 million, Bloomberg said.

The agreement was signed in Berlin Thursday during a visit by Mongolian Prime Minister Sanjaa Bayar.

Global mining companies are keen to secure rights to mineral deposits in Mongolia. Earlier reports say leading mining companies, including CVRD, BHP, Rio and China Shenhua Energy, submitted bids for the Tavan Tolgoi, which is estimated to have 6.5 billion tonnes of metallurgical coal, the biggest untapped deposit of its kind in the world.

China's top coal producer Shenhua Group started building a 4.7 billion yuan ($690 million) cross-border railway to transport coal and copper from Mongolia, the State-Owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission said in a Jan. 20 statement.

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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:30 AM   #1358
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Hmm from the Bombardier website it states that Zefiro would be introduced in 2009 in China. Any updates on that? I wonder which rails this train will travel on.

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Old March 27th, 2009, 06:17 PM   #1359
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Hmm from the Bombardier website it states that Zefiro would be introduced in 2009 in China. Any updates on that? I wonder which rails this train will travel on.

Zefiro:
Yes, Zefiro will be put into operation during the year, possible routes are from Beijing to Shanghai or Beijing to Guangzhou.

Since this group of 20 Zefiro trains are all sleeper EMU, so will be put into some longer routes, run evening-to-morning train.

Trains are being produced, photographed locations are at the workshop BST

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The Zhengzhou-Xi'an PDL will be opened on December 28, 2009. This line includes the longest bridge in the world, the Wei River Grand Bridge, which is 79.7 km long, over twice longer than the Hangzhou Bay Bridge.
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I think it might be more appropriate to say elevated railway instead of a bridge. But anyway, it looks great.
Yes, the elevated railway has been widely used in the 350km/h high-speed railway, because this can reduce the foundation settlement as far as possible.

In the plains, only stations use embankment foundation. All the track between two stations built on viaduct, although only large areas of farmland and roads under bridges.

And even some stations are all at the bridge. Known the longest bridge is the Dan-Kun-Grand-Bridge(under construction, completed later than Wei-River-Grand-Bridge). The bridge is located in the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway, between Danyang station and Kunshan station, a total length of 164km, including three elevated stations: Changzhou, Wuxi, Suzhou.

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Beijing-Shanghai High-speed Railway Schedules (Adjust in 2009)

Beijing-Grand-Bridge(48.2km), 2010.11 completion
Tianjin-Grand-Bridge(113.7km), 2010.11 completion
Qingxian-Cangzhou-Grand-Bridge(27.9km), 2010.11 completion
Cangzhou-Dezhou-Grand-Bridge(105.9km), 2010.11 completion
Dezhou-Yucheng-Grand-Bridge(22.1km), 2010.8 completion
Yellow-River-Grand-Bridge(5.1km), 2010.6 completion
Across-Jinan-Yanzhou-Road-Grand-Bridge(6.6km), 2010.5 completion
Across-Beijing-Shanghai-Railway-Grand-Bridge(14.1km), 2009.12 completion
Big-Wen-River-Grand-Bridge(21.1km), 2010.5 completion
Si-River-Grand-Bridge(17.2km), 2010.5 completion
Across-Jinan-Zaozhuang-High-way-Grand-Bridge(2.3km), 2009.8 completion
Hanzhuang-Canal-Grand-Bridge(12.5km), 2009.12 completion
Panlong-River-Grand-Bridge(4.2km), 2009.12 completion
Xikema-NO1-Tunnel(2.8km), 2010.4 completion
Houbading-Grand-Bridge(7.7km), 2009.12 completion
Chen-Mountain-Grand-Bridge(6.6km), 2009.12 completion
Beijing-Hangzhou-Canal-Grand-Bridge(5.4km), 2009.10 completion
Sui-River-Grand-Bridge(65.6km), 2009.10 completion
Huai-River-Grand-Bridge(85.4km), 2010.5 completion
ZhangXiang-Grand-Bridge(3.0km), 2010.7 completion
Huainan-Fengzhou-Overpass-Grand-Bridge(3.0km), 2009.11 completion
Lianggang-Grand-Bridge(15.8km), 2010.10 completion
"DK950-DK992"-Bridge-Roadbed-Tunnel-Composite(119km), 2010.06 completion
Dashengguan-Long-River-Bridge(9.3km), 2009.11 completion
Wanshou-River-Grand-Bridge(Nanjing-Hub 2.3km), 2010.5 completion
Qinhuai-River-Grand-Bridge(Nanjing-Hub 5.1km), 2010.5 completion
Qinhuai-New-River-Grand-Bridge-Group(Nanjing-Hub), 2010.5 completion
Qinhuai-River-Grand-Bridge(12.6km), 2010.11 completion
"DK1032-DK1102"-Bridge-Roadbed-Tunnel-Composite(70.2km), 2010.06 completion
Dongshitan-Grand-Bridge(6.6km), 2010.06 completion
Danyang-Kunshan-Grand-Bridge(163.8km), 2010.11 completion
Yunzaobin-Grand-Bridge(23.3km), 2010.5 completion
Shanghai EMU Maintenance Base, 2010.11 completion
SHanghai Hongqiao Station House, 2010.4 completion
Track 2009.8 start
Signal And Electrification 2010.1 start

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