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Old July 27th, 2009, 11:23 AM   #1641
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Old July 27th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #1642
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giantic... Poland is now having a Chinese governmental visit. They are discussing business opportunities, also in the rail infrastructure and rail freight sectors.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 10:15 PM   #1643
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Gaspos. I want. Hopefully the chinese will finally prove HSR is cost-effective!
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Old July 28th, 2009, 12:53 AM   #1644
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Is the Guangzhou building this new station on the east side of the city?
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Old July 28th, 2009, 08:43 AM   #1645
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Is the Guangzhou building this new station on the east side of the city?
The station is being built in Shibi, which is in the countryside south west of the city. A metro line is being built to connect with Guangzhou itself. I don't know of any other metropolis in the world where the high speed rail station is in the middle of nowhere. Bad move on their part, but understandable given the congestion on existing lines.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=2...00851&t=k&z=14
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Old July 28th, 2009, 03:09 PM   #1646
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what are the prognosed passenger numbers to go through the station? The metro line will supposedly be as impressive as the station?
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Old July 28th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #1647
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Beijing-Shanghai express rails to be complete by 2011

2009-07-28

Sections of a Beijing-Shanghai high speed railway will be linked together by the end of this year, the Beijing News reported Tuesday. The railway will be completed before 2011, in time to begin operations by 2012.

"The Beijing-Shanghai High Speed Railway project is going smoothly and the railway lines under construction [in different areas] will be linked up together by the end of 2010," Zhang Shuguang, chief of the transportation department at the Ministry of Railway (MOR) was quoted as saying Monday.

The train has a designed speed of 350 kilometers per hour (kph), and it will only take about four hours to travel the 1,318 kilometers rail line between Beijing and Shanghai. Currently, it takes about 10 hours on the fastest train and one ticket costs about 500 yuan ($73).

China opened its first high-speed railway, the 350-kph Beijing-Tianjin route, last year. Zhang said over 70% of tickets of this high speed route have been sold out and the cost of building this railway will be recovered in about 16 years.

Construction of the new Beijing-Shanghai railway began on April 18, 2008 with a total investment of 220.9 billion yuan ($32.3 billion).

Zhang did not reveal how long it would take before the railway would make a profit, but he was confident it would.

"This [high speed] railway line runs through the most prosperous populous area in China and in the future it may become the most profitable railway line in the world,” he said.

"All high-speed railways around the world are profitable," he added.

Last year, experts estimated that the ticket price of the new Beijing-Shanghai railway will be between 600-800 yuan ($88-$117), according to a report from chinanews.com. The full price of an airline ticket between the two cities is roughly 1,130 yuan ($165) now.

Around 13,000 km of high-speed railways capable of handling trains traveling at more than 200 kph could be completed and put into service by 2012, according to an earlier China Daily report.

At least five new railway routes, including the Beijing-Shanghai line, will be able to accommodate trains traveling at speeds of 350 kph by 2012 as well, the report said.

In addition, construction of Beijing-Zhang Jiakou and Beijing-Tangshan high speed railways are expected to begin in August and October separately, deputy director of Beijing Railway Bureau Liu Ruiyang said on Monday.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...nt_8482473.htm
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Old July 28th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #1648
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Shanghai subway to be world's longest by 2010

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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:38 AM   #1649
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The station is being built in Shibi, which is in the countryside south west of the city. A metro line is being built to connect with Guangzhou itself. I don't know of any other metropolis in the world where the high speed rail station is in the middle of nowhere. Bad move on their part, but understandable given the congestion on existing lines.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=2...00851&t=k&z=14

Well I think building a huge railway station outside of the city itself is a good idea. Because of this huge station I'm pretty sure new developments will pop up around there.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 10:23 AM   #1650
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #1651
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Well I think building a huge railway station outside of the city itself is a good idea. Because of this huge station I'm pretty sure new developments will pop up around there.
It's like a humongous airport away from the middle of the city. Sure, it goes against one of the advantages of rail (stations located in the center of the city), but as long as there's a good link to the city, it'll do fine. This is probably a superregion station.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:44 PM   #1652
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people will arrive there from Wuhan, Beijing etc.
i dont think it matters...
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Old July 30th, 2009, 06:28 AM   #1653
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Is this new Guangzhou HSR station going to be served by the line going to Shenzhen and Hong Kong?

What about the current large rail terminal in Guangzhou? It would have made sense to have it be the main intercity rail hub even if building the HSR tracks into it would have been more expensive.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 06:29 AM   #1654
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Gaspos. I want. Hopefully the chinese will finally prove HSR is cost-effective!
Hopefully all of the new highways and airports will be cost effective too. And China has one of, if not the most, heavily traveled passenger rail networks in the world, so I think the new HSR system will be well used.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 01:12 PM   #1655
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It's like a humongous airport away from the middle of the city. Sure, it goes against one of the advantages of rail (stations located in the center of the city), but as long as there's a good link to the city, it'll do fine. This is probably a superregion station.

Which makes it even more innovative. This may be the concept for all mega-cities.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 01:26 PM   #1656
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100-year-old inter-city railway given new life in NE China
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SHENYANG: An inter-city railway that has been carrying trains for more than 100 years was opened again to traffic on Thursday after restoration in northeast China's Liaoning Province.

The 66.1-km railway, linking the provincial capital city of Shenyang and Fushun, was based on an old line built in 1904.

The 8-month restoration project shortens travel between the two cities to 49 minutes from the original 1.5 hours.

"The railway is expected to facilitate inter-city transportation," said Liaoning governor Chen Zhenggao at the opening ceremony.
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Old July 31st, 2009, 07:45 AM   #1657
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It's like a humongous airport away from the middle of the city. Sure, it goes against one of the advantages of rail (stations located in the center of the city), but as long as there's a good link to the city, it'll do fine. This is probably a superregion station.
I don't think so. Currently Hung Hom to Guangzhou East is 90 minutes. This is in a relatively central location in Guangzhou.

West Kowloon to Shibi (or New Guangzhou Station) is planned at 48 minutes once the entire line is complete. Once at Shibi you're looking at 30 minutes by metro into the central areas, which massively reduces time saving.
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Old July 31st, 2009, 02:41 PM   #1658
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Yeah, I'm sorry, I was talking without... thinking. I guess it's just the impression I got from such a... BIG station haha.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 02:52 PM   #1659
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Someone posted an extremely well organized construction schedule for HSR on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_sp...d_Line_Network

There were supposed to be 2 line openings on 30/6. Someone posted Wenzhou entering trials last month. Have these projects fallen months behind?
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 04:34 AM   #1660
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more new Guangzhou station constraction










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