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Old November 6th, 2009, 09:56 PM   #1841
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Four railway lines opened on the same day (November 5) in Xinjiang

http://www.china-mor.gov.cn/detail.jsp?MSG_ID=20605

Jingyihuo Railway: 286 km long connecting Jinghe, Yining and Khorgas port with Kazakhstan, first electrified railway line in Xinjiang
Second Wujing Railway: 381.5 km long connecting Urumqi and Jinghe
Kuibei Railway: 468.5 km long connecting Kuitun and Beitun
Wuzhun Railway: 264 km long connecting Urumqi and the coal industry base in eastern Dzungaria

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Old November 7th, 2009, 03:40 AM   #1842
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great , so China will become the most fast running country
wish to have a travel on the CRH
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Old November 7th, 2009, 04:14 AM   #1843
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China is becoming a railroad country. A holiday just by using trains and taking photos will be a nice journey.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 10:55 AM   #1844
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why future tense?
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Old November 8th, 2009, 01:59 AM   #1845
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The open date of the Wuhan-Guangzhou High-speed Railway will delay to 2010 January 30

http://news.sina.com.cn/o/2009-11-05...6559768s.shtml
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Old November 8th, 2009, 08:46 AM   #1846
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CCTV-4 discusses (in Chinese) the planning of the Beijing-Taipei High Speed Rail 京台高铁 via an undersea tunnel across the Taiwan Strait.

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Old November 8th, 2009, 09:17 AM   #1847
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holy molly!!! thats awsome
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Old November 8th, 2009, 10:31 AM   #1848
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Correction: the entire line except for the Guangzhou station will be open December 20, due to delays in completing the station. Between December 20 and January 30 all high speed trains will stop at the existing Guangzhou station.
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Old November 8th, 2009, 11:53 AM   #1849
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great videos

first off, the announcer was smoking hot, but the discussion reinforced me that i will never be able to learn chinese

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this tunnel would be awesome and rather long indeed

but provided they go with the 140 km option, the swiss still have a hope


i dont see this possible though with political tensions where they are
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Old November 8th, 2009, 05:39 PM   #1850
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150km of deep sea underground tunnel in an earthquake zone crossing fault lines??
that's nut and good luck.

no doubt the idea is great, but is it really engineering possible??
we aren't even talking about money here yet.

how about some genius come up with a ship that can cruise at 300+km/h?
or open up the air for direct flight?
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Old November 8th, 2009, 05:58 PM   #1851
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150km
first of all, there are now _plenty_ of 30km++ tunnels in the world, actually, there are a lot of ~50km tunnels either in existence, under construction, planning or proposed

actually, if you look at the Zürich-Milano route and add together the Ceneri (15 km), the Gotthard Base (57 km) and the Zimmerberg (20 km) tunnels: the trains will run over 90 kms in tunnels...and thats not even mentioning the Bellinzona tunnel and the northern extention of the Base tunnel (+~30 kms)

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of deep sea underground tunnel in an earthquake zone crossing fault lines??
i'm not sure of this

Taiwan lies on the same continental plate as mainland china, in fact if you look at it on Google Earth, the average depth is 30-50 metres
and i dont think it would cross any fault lines

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no doubt the idea is great, but is it really engineering possible??
i think it is definitely possible

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we aren't even talking about money here yet.
got that right


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how about some genius come up with a ship that can cruise at 300+km/h?
or open up the air for direct flight?
air traffic cannot have the same capacity as trains, not for freight!
and ships are a lot slower than freight trains going at 120-160 kph
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Old November 8th, 2009, 09:06 PM   #1852
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It will greatly stimulate Fujian's economy, but with the current situation, I don't see it happening in under 10 years. But in today's Asia, anything can change/happen.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 09:56 AM   #1853
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Taiwan lies on the same continental plate as mainland china, in fact if you look at it on Google Earth, the average depth is 30-50 metres
and i dont think it would cross any fault lineskph
It doesn't cross major fault lines but the area is riddled with minor ones and anyways it's very close to the Philippine Sea Plate subduction zone that generates a lot of seismic activity in the region.
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air traffic cannot have the same capacity as trains, not for freight!
and ships are a lot slower than freight trains going at 120-160 kph
Shipping is still a cheaper method than rail to move freight over long distances. I wonder if it's worth it to ship something by rail from Shanghai or Guangdong to Taiwan by rail (theoretically speaking) instead of just putting it on a ship.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 02:01 PM   #1854
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Yeah... but the tunnel is not really going to be judged on its economic rationale.

At the end of the day, it is a political statement that Taiwan is inextricably part of China, and that will be the reason it will be built (if it ever does)
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Old November 9th, 2009, 02:47 PM   #1855
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A bridge would be far more sexy.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 04:17 AM   #1856
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Lol I wonder how many ships would hit it per day, to say nothing of typhoons.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 05:24 AM   #1857
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I think you never see the Chongming bridges.

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It doesn't cross major fault lines but the area is riddled with minor ones and anyways it's very close to the Philippine Sea Plate subduction zone that generates a lot of seismic activity in the region.
Since the Seikan Tunnel and the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge in Japan are build, it's not a problem.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #1858
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Old November 10th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #1859
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Old November 10th, 2009, 07:55 PM   #1860
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Awesome! I've seen pictures of their low speed mag-lev trains. This is the first domestic made high speed mag-lev train that I've seen. Looks good. I really believe mag-lev transportation will flourish in China in the future.
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