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Old November 19th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #61
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Money of course FS (Ferrovie dello Stato) is canceling all passanger trains with Easteren Europe, they aren't profitable enough, because Italian railways are in big cries. Next year will be the last with passanger train between Slovenia and Italia. Interesting how we are more connected now, in united Europe Yugoslavia had more than 4 passager trains daily (8 in both directions) with Italy.
OMG! I really hate the Trenitalia (ex Ferrovie dello Stato) policy. Sometimes they act in a very stupid way (also with "internal" italian transport management)!
However, thank you for the info.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 09:13 PM   #62
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Indeed, all this trains were canceld in last 17 years, and they wern't empty:

IC Drava (Venice – Budapest) - canceled 7 years ago
EC Casanova (Ljubljana - Venice) - canceled
EC Goldoni - (Venice - Budapest) - canceled 2 years ago
Goriza – Nova Gorica - canceled 16 years ago

What we still have are 2 international trains from Venice to Budapest in 2008/09 year. Who knows what is going to be in 2009/10? Italia is also canceling international trains with Austria through Travisio.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 10:30 PM   #63
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WHAT?!?!?!
It's possible if trend continuous

This pics were taken in 363 on way from Koper to Ljubljana:



Črni Kal viaduct





New comunication cables along the railway are here still unfinished...

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Old November 19th, 2008, 10:39 PM   #64
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Hahaha, of all international trains between Italy and neighboring countries, Trenitalia put a picture of a Slovenian pendolino on their website, which don't even drive in Italy any more.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 06:15 PM   #65
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Old November 29th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #66
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More winter pics from this week, we had a cold front...













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Old November 29th, 2008, 11:27 PM   #67
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Very cool. The Slowenian railroads have an interesting mixture of vehicles from all over Europe.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 11:59 PM   #68
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Niiice!
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Old November 30th, 2008, 11:33 AM   #69
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Very cool. The Slowenian railroads have an interesting mixture of vehicles from all over Europe.
Indeed, they are mostly from Germany, but some are also from France, America, Italia, Poland, Austria, Spain and Croatia (many diesel locos were made in their Đura Đaković factory by licence).

Here, in Maribor, is a Simens factory. They are making new DMUs for Iran and testing it in Austria.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 12:25 PM   #70
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Slovenina Railroads look like a mixture of all European railroads
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Old December 6th, 2008, 10:55 PM   #71
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Slovenia to the EC decision to fund the production of project documentation for the Slovenian part 6 rail priority project

European Commission Vice-President and Commissioner for Transport Antonio Tajani today in Verona at the conference entitled "Verona, junction of routes" signed the Decision on co-financing studies and project documents for a new railway line Trieste-Divača and solemn traditions Secretary in the Ministry of Transport, Dr. . Igorju Jakominu.

State Secretary in the Ministry of Transport dr. Igor Jakomin On this occasion, expressed satisfaction over the agreement reached with Italian colleagues regarding the modernization of the railway section between Trieste and Divača and expressed his conviction that the cooperation with the Italian side successfully. It also thanked the European Commission to assist and support the work relating to the allocation and use of European funds Slovenia, as well as for the understanding and constructive spirit with regard to solving other topical issues.

Decision of the European Commission represents the successful completion of process of securing funding for studies and design documentation on that section. The height of a decision of appropriations by the European Commission amounts to 50.7 million euros, of which Slovenia attributed 56.6% oz. 28.7 million euros, rest, 22 million oz. However, 43.6% Italy.
It is recalled that a cross-border railway project, which cooperate Slovenia and Italy and the basic starting point the Memorandum of Understanding between the Ministries of both countries on the implementation of cross-border rail link Trieste-Divača as a component of priority TEN-T project No. 6 »Lyon - Trieste - Divača / Koper - Divača - Ljubljana - Budapest - Ukraine border." Was signed in Rome 17 last July with a view to incorporating it into the Slovenian-Italian joint application for funds to co-finance the manufacturing space, investment and project documents for a new line Trieste-Divača. Italian-Slovenian Joint application to obtain funds for co-financing has been provided to the European Commission in July 2007.

With these means and with funds from the budget will Slovenia acceded to the manufacture of spatial documentation, evidence base for national spatial plan (with accompanying design studies ...), to the adoption of the national spatial plan, the elaboration of design documentation for building permission and to a project documents for the implementation of the construction of new lines. In accordance with the Decision is planned execution of those activities during the period December 2008 - December 2013.

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Old January 2nd, 2009, 01:27 PM   #72
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Great thread guys! I have one question! How much did the Pendolinos cost?
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:21 PM   #73
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It was 22 milion euro at that time (9 years ago).
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:31 AM   #74
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So, unfortunately the author of this thread already put my pictures on this forum without asking or at least mentioning me. But what is more annoying is fact that I wanted to put those and some other of my pictures with descriptions to this forum but they are already here.

Anyway I wil give to those pictures proper description. Those pictures were taken last year in November on not very pleasant day with mixed weather of sun and light rain vhen I decided to go to one of most interesting sections of railway between Divača and Koper and this is on almost unpopulated Karsic plateau where the steepest climb from port of Koper is almost done but not yet...

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Famous franch made Brižita is pulling freight train from Koper

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And again Brižita with "Pohorc" (Koper - Maribor) train where the 23 promiles elevation is clearly visible with help of long tele lens

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...just a little bit more

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Double curve in direction to Divača with cariageway crossing, APB sign (automatic rairway section) and speed limit sign (top speed for Pendolino, middle for rest of passenger trains and low for all other trains)

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View towards Divača and switch from switch signal on Istria railway. On this switch line divides to electrificied line to port of Koper and non-electrificed line to Pula in Croatia.

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...tis is the way to Pula in Croatia. This line is not so busy as is Koper line.

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Pre-signal for switch with Koper line on Pula line in direction to Divača

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I'm back on the switch and meet Brigita again with heavy freight train...

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...and with help from her younger co-worker Siemens from Adria Transport which is helping by pushing the train.

All photos taken with my Minolta DSLR camera with old M42 lens (from Practica) attached.

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Old January 30th, 2009, 03:46 AM   #75
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Some beautiful pics! I agree, it is an interesting mix of trains. Absolutely stunning scenery too.

I should visit sometime.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 07:06 PM   #76
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Now a few pics of an unusual train, running through a cave. Postojna Cave is 20 km long and thus the third longest cave system in the world and the longest in Slovenia, as well as one of its top tourism sites. The railway was laid already in 1872. First trains were pushed along by guides themselves, when in 1924 they introduced a gas locomotive. After 1945 it was replaced by an electric locomotive.

Map of the Postojna Cave (railway in grey):

http://www.burger.si/Jame/Postojnska...ca_Celotna.gif








http://www.portoroz.si/en/imagelib/l...jnska_jama.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5k156PMQPg...jna%2B(60).JPG


http://image53.webshots.com/53/6/75/...2rSyHla_ph.jpg

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http://shrani.si/f/2h/az/1AeMz9iJ/jama.jpg

And finally - a video!


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Old March 15th, 2009, 05:42 PM   #77
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I was in the railroad museum in Trieste and talk to a guy who told me why they cancelled it: Italy introduced a new satellite control system which the Slovenes don't have (nor have the mony to but); therefore they can't run their trains in Italy (and since it is a EMU they can't change locos); the euronight still runs because they can change locos... and the FS don't want to put their EMUs into Slovenia... it's really stupid. I live in Trieste and find it so hard to go to Ljubiana just for the day!
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Old March 16th, 2009, 02:26 AM   #78
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Indeed, very stupid.

Slovenia has the same voltage as Italy 3 kV (because of some pre-WWII electrifications, after war the whole sistem has been upgraded with the same voltage in Slovenia and part of Croatia, but the rest of Yugoslavia had different, 25 kV) and we still have so many problems with interoperability. Austria has different voltage and there are no problems with their locos or with our in Austria.

But we are still cooperating...

Minuetto on promotion drive in Slovenia 2007, Koper - Ljubljana - Celje
- one of three options for new EMUs (2012)

Koper:





... and real interoperability, FS loco in Ljubljana (sorry for old picture):



Our interoperability with OBB is much better, Austrian Taurus are common in Jesenice, Ljubljana, Koper, Dobova and are in use for both, passenger and freight trains.

In this month is on testing drives Austrian Hercules, which is going to be in use between Koper and Maribor - Austria. This is second concurrence on our rails for SŽ (after Adria transport), because those trains aren't part of interoperability, but OBB trains that are going to transport freigth from port of Koper to Austria wihthought SŽ engine drivers (although they will still be Slovenes). First train like these (Taurus) came from Austria to Jesenice and than went to Koper for pick up freight, on 19.2.2009.

Austrian Hercules:



... and some SŽ trains around that time:












all pictures from @grega from http://www.vlaki.info/forum/index.php

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More great pics!

Do you guys have any interior pics?
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Old March 16th, 2009, 06:23 PM   #80
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363 - Brigitte



312 - Simens Desiro



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Taurus



Pendolino


@Tin€

First class:





Second class:



Bar:


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