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Old September 9th, 2009, 08:37 PM   #221
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Uncompleted N1/N2 - M6 flyover

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Really? That's not good
I imagine the finished portion of the viaduct must have hefty congestion
I don't think so as it seems clear that the reason the scheme was abandoned was because it was excessive for the volume of traffic involved.

If you look at the maps you can see that the area to the West of Cape Town CBD that would be served by the flyovers is small (almost all of the urban area lies to the East).

The plan was to link the junction of Table Bay Boulevard (N1) and Eastern Boulevard (N2) with Western Boulevard (M6) using a flyover between the widely spaced elevated carriageways of the N1 and N2. I've circled the elements of the scheme that were actually built.

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Old September 9th, 2009, 09:00 PM   #222
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Kuilsriver Freeway

Talking of incomplete schemes, my 1980s streetplan of the Cape Peninsula shows the Kuilsriver Freeway (R300) was going to continue north of the N1 with a full four-level interchange.

As it is you can see from the interchange how it was going to continue, the corridor left for it and space for diamond junctions at De Villiers Road and Wellington Road.

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Old September 11th, 2009, 01:18 AM   #223
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Bilingual signage

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Very nice pictures in this thread. If I see the destinations on signs like these it just feels like the Netherlands. However, most of it seems to be in English. Is the african language yet that important?
You can see some signs in Afrikaans too, such as these:-

Liesbeek Parkweg - Liesbeek Parkway

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Mooirivier (Suid) - Mooi River (South)



Olifantsfonteinweg - Olifantsfontein Road



Woodmead-Ryln (Woodmeadrylaan) - Woodmead Drive



Rissikstr. (Rissikstraat) - Rissik Street

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Stadig - Slow

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Perhaps this should be South African highways and freeways/Suid-Afrikaanse deurpaaie en snelweė like the other threads? ;-)

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Old September 11th, 2009, 08:39 AM   #224
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Perhaps this should be South African highways and freeways/Suid-Afrikaanse deurpaaie en snelweė like the other threads? ;-)
Don't forget isiXhosa and isiZulu. Are there any signs in those languages?

It's good to see your government is not discriminating the use of Afrikaans. Considering their other policies I wouldn't have been surprised of a more hostile attitude.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 09:54 PM   #225
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All South African road signs I've seen are in either English or Afrikaans. Afrikaans on the signs is particularly prominent in those areas of the country where the language is spoken a lot: the Western Cape (if I remember correctly the sole province where more people have Afrikaans as their mother tongue than English) and the former Transvaal. You won't see a sign in Afrikaans in KwazuluNatal, where almost nobody speaks that language.

By the way, a Dutch-sounding name does not necessarily mean that Afrikaans is the prominent language in the area. Pietermaritzburg, for instance, was founded by Boers as the name suggests, but the town was taken over by the Brits within a few years of it being founded.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 10:02 PM   #226
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You can see some signs in Afrikaans too, such as these:-

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Most of them are not bilingual. Bilingual is when both languages are signed, here it's only Afrikaans.

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Perhaps this should be South African highways and freeways/Suid-Afrikaanse deurpaaie en snelweė like the other threads? ;-)
I like that. "deurpaaie" (doorpaden?) means expressway?
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Old September 11th, 2009, 10:22 PM   #227
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Most of them are not bilingual. Bilingual is when both languages are signed, here it's only Afrikaans.
The photos may a wrong impression of areas being signposted in Afrikaans only. In areas where the use of Afrikaans is widespread, you mostly see that an Afrikaans-only sign is followed by an English-only sign a few kilometers down the road. So the first sign says Kaapstad and the second one says Cape Town. That's of course not needed in situations where an abbreviation like "Str" can be used (both Street and Straat) or a direction like S (both South and Suid). Plus there aren't too many towns that have different names in Afrikaans and English. Kaapstad / Cape Town is a large difference, but Kaapstad can be considered familiar among non-Afrikaans speakers too. Most other towns with two names shows a small difference only. Think of Plettenberg Bay vs. Plettenbergbaai.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 11:52 PM   #228
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Perhaps this should be South African highways and freeways/Suid-Afrikaanse deurpaaie en snelweė like the other threads? ;-)
Wouldn't it be "Zuid-Afrikaanse..."? Isn't this where the code "ZA" comes from?
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No, it's Suid-Afrika in Afrikaans.
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What language is Zuid-Afrika then?
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Dutch? (We say Zuid-Afrika)
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I like that. "deurpaaie" (doorpaden?) means expressway?
As far as I know a "deurpad" is in Dutch a "hoofdweg" (main road).
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Wouldn't it be "Zuid-Afrikaanse..."? Isn't this where the code "ZA" comes from?
"SA" is already taken for Saudi Arabia.
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They use the Dutch name to get ZA for some reason
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The old R74 route down oliviers pass to Durban
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The present day N3 route to Durban
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N3 nearing pietermaritzburg
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N9, north of Graaff Reinet, Eastern Cape
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N9, near Middelburg, Eastern Cape
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