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Old April 12th, 2008, 03:25 PM   #121
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What a wonderfull Country, i must try to visit the worldcup, but its defecault to get a actual map of the RSA-Motorways.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 08:06 PM   #122
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Are there any needs or plan to upgrade the whole route between Johannesburg and Cape Town to full freeway standard ? I always wondered why the two cities weren't connected with an expressway...
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Old April 13th, 2008, 03:06 PM   #123
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Are there any needs or plan to upgrade the whole route between Johannesburg and Cape Town to full freeway standard ? I always wondered why the two cities weren't connected with an expressway...
Probably because of the distance, so there isn't to much traffic going from one to the other.
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Old April 14th, 2008, 11:37 AM   #124
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What a wonderfull Country, i must try to visit the worldcup, but its defecault to get a actual map of the RSA-Motorways.
I can imagine South African maps being difficult to get hold of from foreign countries, but locally they're very easy to come by. MapStudio is the main map producer, producing road maps of South Africa as well as maps of the major cities. The AA also produces a road map of South Africa.

Here's the MapStudio map (scroll down to "South Africa Road Atlas"), and here's the AA map. I'm not sure if you can get them shipped outside the country though.

For an online map, try this site.
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Old April 14th, 2008, 11:54 AM   #125
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Are there any needs or plan to upgrade the whole route between Johannesburg and Cape Town to full freeway standard ? I always wondered why the two cities weren't connected with an expressway...
It's because current traffic volumes make it unnecessary. I drove along the N1 from Cape Town as far as Winburg (~300km before Johannesburg) in January this year, and had no problems with traffic at all, except for the section between Bloemfontein and Verkeedevlei where roadworks are in progress (they're upgrading that section of road to a dual-carriageway freeway). Those roadworks may be part of a long-term plan to eventually have two lanes in each direction between Bloemfontein and Johannesburg, but I don't know for sure.

Now, the N3 (the road between Durban and Johannesburg) is a totally different story. It links South Africa's major economic hub with its major port, and it's only 560km between the two cities. Consequently, that road carries a lot of heavy vehicles, as well as holiday traffic in December/January. That road has two lanes in each direction over its entire length. Between Durban and Ladysmith (246km), it's a dual-carriageway freeway; between Ladysmith and Warden (102km) it's a highway (two lanes each way) with at-grade intersections; between Warden and Villiers (93km) it's a single-carriageway freeway, and between Villiers and the road's end where it meets the N1 (127km) it's once again a dual-carriageway freeway.

For purposes of comparison, I'm going to mention the coastal road (the N2). It's a dual-carriageway freeway within Cape Town, but changes back to a normal road 46km after leaving Cape Town (at Somerset West). The other freeway sections are between Mossel Bay and George, through Port Elizabeth, through East London, and between Port Shepstone and Richard's Bay (which includes Durban). There are plans to build new sections of the N2 bypassing Knysna and going through the Transkei, but I don't know whether they'll be freeway or not.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 03:13 PM   #126
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here's some arial pictures of highways in Durban and Johannesburg

This one is a highway in Durban

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The N2 highway

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This is the N12 highway somewhere near Johannesburg

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Courtesy of Kulani from the African Highways thread.
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Old April 21st, 2008, 08:59 AM   #127
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Just to identify the above pics...

The first three are all just outside Durban on the northern side (I live and work in the western areas, so I don't go up that way very often). The first picture is the interchange of the N2 and M27 (you can see the M4 also intersecting with the M27), and the second picture is about two kilometres north of that. The third picture is the exit to the Sibaya casino, about six kilometres to the south of the first picture.

The Johannesburg picture is of the interchange of the N12 and R21, just to the south of the airport. (If you look closely, you can see the end of the eastern runway at the top-left corner of the pic.)
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Old May 1st, 2008, 03:31 PM   #128
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N1 highway - en route to Pretoria from Johannesburg
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Old May 4th, 2008, 04:26 PM   #129
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More pictures of the N1 (you can see some of the electronic signaling systems being installed)

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Old May 6th, 2008, 05:16 AM   #130
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Old May 6th, 2008, 09:36 AM   #131
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Not all roads are that bad. The N3 is always kept in excellent condition (being arguably the most important national road in the country), as are the roads in the Western Cape.

Having said that, I have driven on some pretty appalling roads in my time - I think the R618 was the worst, I was pretty much dodging potholes every few hundred metres (although I believe that they've fixed up that road since then). I hear that Mpumalanga and the Eastern Cape (maybe Limpopo as well) are the provinces where road maintenance is shocking - those photos look like they could well come from the Mpumalanga area. I'm sure we're not the only ones with some pretty bad roads though.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 06:30 PM   #132
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Lmao...the same scale as Eskom? I highly doubt that, but of course there are roads needing attention, as in every other country.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 07:42 PM   #133
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Have driven almost all of the "N" (National Highways) designated routes in South Africa, all are in good condition, safe to travel at their posted 120km/h speed limit. The "R" (Regional Routes) in some provinces are not great, most noteably Mpumalanga, Limpopo, Eastern Cape and some Free State roads. The Northern Cape, Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal's roads are all generally in a good condition, many with wide shoulders. Gauteng is OK, but I think they're not good at keeping up with traffic growth. We need more money for the road infrastructure budget, but don't think anyone will be affected whilst travelling between major cities.
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Old May 21st, 2008, 07:28 PM   #134
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Cape Town area

N1 on approach to the Huguenot Tunnel Entrance (65km east of Cape Town)
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M3 Freeway in Cape Town's Southern Suburbs
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Table Bay Boulevard (elevated freeway) into Cape Town CBD
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N2/N1 split on Table Bay Boulevard (elevated freeway), Cape Town
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N2 Freeway approaching Devil's Peak (8km from Cape Town CBD)
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Chapman's Peak Drive (20km south of Cape Town)
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N1 just before it becomes dual-carriage freeway in DuToitskloof Pass (85km east of Cape Town)
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N1 highway in the Hex River Valley (140km north-east of Cape Town)
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Old May 21st, 2008, 09:48 PM   #135
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Just for interest...

Thought, The Cape of Good Hope is a prominent name on every globe or world map. This is a pic of the actual road to the cape, about 50km south of Cape Town at the very bottom of the peninsula. Yes, just a minor road (doesn't even have a designated route number), as it is in a national park and only carries a small amount of tourist traffic only, nobody really lives down here.
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Old May 21st, 2008, 09:54 PM   #136
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N1 highway in the Hex River Valley (140km north-east of Cape Town)


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Anyone know what this roadmarking is suppose to mean?
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Anyone know what this roadmarking is suppose to mean?
I assume you refer to the white markings in the middle of the road.

The solid lines mean that you may not cross them to overtake. As they're on both sides of the dashed line, traffic in both directions are not allowed to overtake. If there's the dashed line only, without the solid lines, traffic on both sides MAY overtake. If the solid line is only on one side, then traffic on the side with the solid line may not overtake, and the traffic on the other side may overtake.

Sometimes the dashed white line in the centre is replaced with a solid yellow line - you're only likely to see this on single-carriageway freeways (two lanes in each direction, no centre median). Search for photos of the N3 if you want to see this - the entire N3 is either single-carriageway freeway or dual-carriageway freeway (or what some people call a motorway).

Hope this helps.
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Old May 21st, 2008, 11:14 PM   #138
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I would hope at least the drivers in South Africa knew what they meant, else we'd have a little tiny problem, sure Ron2K got your answer there...
Actually... in thinking about it, the way some people take chances on our roads, maybe some don't know!!!

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Old May 22nd, 2008, 08:28 AM   #139
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I assume you refer to the white markings in the middle of the road.

The solid lines mean that you may not cross them to overtake. As they're on both sides of the dashed line, traffic in both directions are not allowed to overtake. If there's the dashed line only, without the solid lines, traffic on both sides MAY overtake. If the solid line is only on one side, then traffic on the side with the solid line may not overtake, and the traffic on the other side may overtake.

Sometimes the dashed white line in the centre is replaced with a solid yellow line - you're only likely to see this on single-carriageway freeways (two lanes in each direction, no centre median). Search for photos of the N3 if you want to see this - the entire N3 is either single-carriageway freeway or dual-carriageway freeway (or what some people call a motorway).

Hope this helps.
Thanks! So it actually means the same as the double line we use in Europe and North America? Do not understand the purpose of the dashed lines in the middle if overtaking is prohibited. They made me confused
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Old May 24th, 2008, 06:58 PM   #140
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The dashed lines are just a seperator between lanes ( internationally used also in the USA and Europe ). Nothing confusing
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