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Old September 14th, 2011, 01:05 AM   #861
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 05:21 PM   #862
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I am trying to work out exactly what works are proposed for Victoria as part of the funded renovations.

The station is supposed to be transformed by 2014 but apart from the small scale works currently going on namely lighting and toilets and the recently announced barriers etc it difficult to work out the major works that are to be done.

There is some doubt about the amount of funding which has been secured. About 30M seems to be the figure. The roof is to cost about 20M. What is the rest being used for.

All info only refers to the new roof and makes no mention of other works such as the new shops etc.

Has the planning application gone in yet?

If not then presumably this is the planning application to be submitted this winter for the improvement works, but what works are involved other than the roof which are supposed to provide a transformed station approx 1 year after electrification of the lines to Liverpool
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 05:49 PM   #863
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1st Phase, platform upgrades, lighting upgrades, passenger facility improvements-already underway
2nd Phase, new roof, funded and in final stages of planning, Major funder is Network Rails Station Improvement Fund which gives grants for improvements which at the same time generate additonal revenue
3rd Phase, new concourse shops and ticket barriers, Network Rail proposing self funding to increase station commercial revenues and offset roof costs its contributing too.
xth phase, new Metrolink platforms, part of the 2nd City Crossing, currently in consultation will be funded from TfGM borrowing already budgeted
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 06:53 PM   #864
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1st Phase, platform upgrades, lighting upgrades, passenger facility improvements-already underway
2nd Phase, new roof, funded and in final stages of planning, Major funder is Network Rails Station Improvement Fund which gives grants for improvements which at the same time generate additonal revenue
3rd Phase, new concourse shops and ticket barriers, Network Rail proposing self funding to increase station commercial revenues and offset roof costs its contributing too.
xth phase, new Metrolink platforms, part of the 2nd City Crossing, currently in consultation will be funded from TfGM borrowing already budgeted

Thanks WatcherZero. Will Phase 3 be completed by 2014.

I presume xth phase will not be completed to 2016 on completion of 2CC
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Old October 7th, 2011, 04:45 PM   #865
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Northern Hub vision on display

7 Oct 2011, 15:38


An exhibition roadshow of Network Rail's plans for the expansion of rail in the North, including BDP's design for the revamp of Manchester Victoria station, began on Friday.

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Transforming Manchester Victoria station to a transport interchange that is safer, better and more spacious. Plans include a brand new state of the art roof, new and improved connections to MEN Arena, improvements to the ticket office, new shops and cafes and refurbished heritage features and station frontage (canopy and paving). In addition, there are plans for new platforms to accommodate faster, more frequent trains to Liverpool, Leeds and Manchester Airport as part of the Northern Hub and a number of proposed commercial developments next to the station. Transport for Greater Manchester, which runs Metrolink, plans to build two new platforms and additional track at the station.
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Old October 7th, 2011, 06:15 PM   #866
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Have your say on Network Rail's £560m plan to improve rail travel in Greater Manchester

[img]http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/763.$plit/C_71_article_1461134_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg?07%2F10%2F2011%2012%3A57%3A05%3A367
An artist's impression of plans by Network Rail for a £27m revamp of Manchester’s Victoria Station, including a £16m new roof[/img]

Thousands of people are being asked their views from today on plans for a massive package of rail improvements.

Bosses at Network Rail have launched the major consultation on the 'Northern Hub' - the heavily-congested network of track around Manchester. It will be their biggest-ever test of public opinion.

A series of exhibitions are being held.

Network Rail says £560m needs to be spent on improvements that would create up to 30,000 jobs across the north and boost the regional economy by £4.2bn.

Experts say the project is vital for the future economic prosperity of the north of England - and just as important as plans for high-speed rail.

Network Rail's publicity video for Northern Hub below ...


Graham Botham, Network Rail's Northern Hub boss, said: "Better connections between towns and cities in the North are vital for the economy. We want to make it easier for people to get to work, do business, go shopping and visit friends and family. We want to share our vision with the public and look forward to hearing their views."

Mr Botham said the project would see 700 more trains a day running between towns and cities across the north, with space for 44m more people to travel by train each year.

More from Graham Botham in the audio and video clips below


The consultation comes six months after Chancellor George Osborne approved plans to create an £85m direct train link between Victoria and Piccadilly stations – a small part of the hub proposals. It will help uncork a massive bottleneck on the network and cut journey times to Leeds by 14 minutes.

The government has already approved plans to increase journey times by electrifying rail lines in the north west at a cost of between £400m and £500m.

There are also plans by Network Rail to spend £27m on a revamp of Manchester’s run-down Victoria Station, including a £16m new roof. The 160-year-old Grade II-listed station could be set to get a futuristic see-through roof from the same material as the iconic domes of the Eden Project plant-houses in Cornwall.

Manchester Piccadilly would get two new platforms and new tracks would allow faster trains to overtake slower services.

Network Rail submitted its plans to the government in September.

Transport Secretary Philip Hammond told the MEN during the Conservative conference he believed the rail connection between Piccadilly and Victoria was a 'vital link'. He is expected to make a decision on whether or not to approve the full package next summer.

List of consultation events:
Today (Friday): Museum of Science and Industry 3pm to 7pm
Tomorrow (Saturday): Museum of Science & Industry 10am to 5pm
Tuesday 11 October: Salford Central Station 7am to 9.30am and 3pm to 7pm
Wednesday 12 October: Salford Town Hall 2pm to 8pm
Thursday 13 October: Eccles Station 7am to 9.30am and 4pm to 7pm
Friday 14 October: Manchester Victoria Station 7am to 9.30am and 3pm to 7pm
Saturday 15 October: Manchester Victoria Station 10am to 6pm
Wednesday 19 October: Manchester Piccadilly Station 7am to 9.30am and 3pm to 7pm
Thursday 20 October: Manchester Town Hall foyer 2pm to 8pm
Friday 21 October: Arndale Centre, Manchester 10am to 6pm
Saturday 22 October: Arndale Centre, Manchester 10am to 6pm
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All from the Network Rail website. New render and link to the Northern Hub website below article.

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News Releases: North West & West Midlands

NETWORK RAIL LAUNCHES BIGGEST EVER CONSULTATION IN GREATER MANCHESTER

Thursday 06 Oct 2011 15:30

· Vision for rail in the North set out by road show of exhibition events across region

· Consultation for Ordsall Chord launched today at MOSI

· Thousands expected to attend and give their views on plans

· Faster, more frequent services and upgraded stations on the horizon

Network Rail has today (7 October 2011) launched its biggest ever consultation exercise to gather the views of the public on its vision for rail in the North. The consultation, which will see exhibitions held in stations, town halls and shopping centres in an effort to get as many people to comment as possible.

The exhibitions will display Network Rail’s emerging plans for Ordsall Chord, a new short section of railway linking Manchester Victoria and Piccadilly stations, along with a wider vision for rail investment across the North - the Northern Hub. The event will also mark the launch of consultations for electrification and improvement proposals for Manchester Victoria station, which have been put together with Transport for Greater Manchester.

Thousands of members of the public are expected to attend the series of events which will run in Greater Manchester throughout October.

Graham Botham, Network Rail’s programme sponsor for the Northern Hub, said: “Better connections between the towns and cities of the North are vital for the economy. We want to make it easier for people to get to work, do business, go shopping and visit friends and family. We want to share our vision with the public and look forward to hearing their views.”

Notes to Editors:

The consultation consists of four parts:

1.The Ordsall Chord, a new piece of railway Network Rail wants to construct in central Manchester to link Piccadilly and Victoria stations and provide faster, more frequent services across the North. This was funded by the Chancellor in the 2010 Budget and is an Infrastructure Planning Commission pre application consultation.
2.The Northern Hub, of which the Ordsall Chord is the first part, is Network Rail’s plan to stimulate economic growth by upgrading the rail network across the North. Independent assessments estimate that it could deliver over £4bn of benefits and 20,000 to 30,000 new jobs for the North. More information on the Northern Hub is available at www.northernhub.co.uk
3.Network Rail is electrifying key routes in the North West between Manchester, Liverpool, Blackpool and Preston. The government confirmed funding for this important investment in October 2010 and the work will help deliver a reliable railway, tackle overcrowding and reduce the cost of the railway. For more information please go to www.networkrail.co.uk
4.Transforming Manchester Victoria station to a transport interchange that is safer, better and more spacious. Plans include a brand new state of the art roof, new and improved connections to MEN Arena, improvements to the ticket office, new shops and cafes and refurbished heritage features and station frontage (canopy and paving). In addition, there are plans for new platforms to accommodate faster, more frequent trains to Liverpool, Leeds and Manchester Airport as part of the Northern Hub and a number of proposed commercial developments next to the station. Transport for Greater Manchester, which runs Metrolink, plans to build two new platforms and additional track at the station.

The exhibition schedule in Greater Manchester is as follows:

Friday 7 October: Museum of Science & Industry 15.00 – 19.00

Saturday 8 October: Museum of Science & Industry 10.00 – 17.00

Tuesday 11 October: Salford Central Station 07.00 – 09.30, 15.00 – 19.00

Wednesday 12 October: Salford Civic Centre 14.00 – 20.00

Thursday 13 October: Eccles Station 07.00 –13.00

Friday 14 October: Manchester Victoria Station 07.00 – 09.30, 15.00 – 19.00

Saturday 15 October: Manchester Victoria Station 10.00 – 18.00

Wednesday 19 October: Manchester Piccadilly Station 07.00 – 09.30, 15.00 – 19.00

Thursday 20 October: Manchester Town Hall (foyer) 14.00 – 20.00

Friday 21 October: Arndale Centre, Manchester 10.00 – 18.00

Saturday 22 October: Arndale Centre, Manchester 10.00 – 18.00

Details of the second, wider stage of consultation on electrification and Northern Hub will be announced shortly.

http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co...egoryID-5.aspx

http://www.northernhub.co.uk/





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Old October 7th, 2011, 10:24 PM   #868
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So from this picture it looks as though the ticket barriers will span all platforms. Aren't the ticket barriers supposed to be installed by the end of the year? Will they be installed like this or moved when the station is fully refurbed? I always assumed they would be where the ticket inspectors stand now ..

It also looks as though the mezzanine is going to be built right on top of the Metrolink platforms. It seems TfGM enjoy making all the Met stations look "underground" (like the one at Piccadilly). No harm in that I guess..

But where does that mezzanine lead? It looks as though it ends at some sort of glass elevator at the end there, but I don't know?

Anyway, I like the renders. Bring it on!
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From these two new renders it looks like Victoria will be rearranged like this possibly?

Ground Floor - Metrolink Platforms, Train Platforms and retail and ticket offices etc.
Mezzanine Floor - Retail and Restaurant space, plus access to further platforms.
Upper Mezzanine Floor - Access to M.E.N Arena?
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Your falling for a bit of false perspective there Volde, its situated along the edge of the current bay platforms a three story structure with top tier for access to arena and middle tier retail/access to through platforms. The concourse doesnt go all the way to the far end wall!!!!

Here you go, before (including extra Metrolink platforms) and after.




Edit: Flange image shows it even better
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Oh I see! So the Met platforms aren't underneath the mezzanine then?

3 layers? Wow! Victoria certainly will be transformed ..

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Fish Dock?
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Could be, but more likely just refering to the Co-Ops district plan with that funny name.
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The consultation document refers to two specific developments in addition to the wider NOMA/Co-op development. One is Greengate and the other is two buildings on the Fishdock site.
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Could be, but more likely just refering to the Co-Ops district plan with that funny name.
ANOM, MOAN or NOMA?

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Old October 20th, 2011, 10:04 AM   #876
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7-8 Hi-VIS people were assessing the facade of the station and canopy last night from the bus stop next to chets.
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7-8 Hi-VIS people were assessing the facade of the station and canopy last night from the bus stop next to chets.
They could have been admiring the view whilst waiting for a bus.
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They could have been admiring the view whilst waiting for a bus.
Defiantly had clipboards pointing and writing notes.
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Defiantly had clipboards pointing and writing notes.
Why, who was trying to stop them?
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