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Old April 4th, 2012, 01:18 AM   #981
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If the station in its current state is good enough for the Queen of England, it is good enough for TfGM - for the moment. No rush.
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Old April 4th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #982
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I used to work with the guy far left.

The reason Victoria is used as its cheaper TACs, so less cost to public purse, and also due to security reasons - Piccadilly is a Cat A station, its considered less risky to use Victoria, Cat B station. Less glass to smash/shatter.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 08:01 PM   #983
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Less glass to smash/shatter.
At the moment
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Old April 9th, 2012, 05:10 PM   #984
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And in the future - isn't the new curvalicious roof going to be ETFE pillows? An hexplosion would just result in the world's loudest sound of squished bubblewrap and some very dazed pigeons.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #985
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And in the future - isn't the new curvalicious roof going to be ETFE pillows? An hexplosion would just result in the world's loudest sound of squished bubblewrap and some very dazed pigeons.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:18 PM   #986
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Some great news for Victoria, work could start next summer if we're lucky....

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Two fight for Manchester Victoria station revamp
Aaron Morby | Thu 10th May | 7:36

Morgan Sindall and Kier are believed to be the last two contractors battling it out for the £20m job to modernise Manchester Victoria station.

The project will see the winning contractor install a huge ETFE roofing canopy*across the station concourse as well as carrying out other improvements.

Both firms have submitted their final bids and are now waiting for Network Rail to make a decision.

One source told the Enquirer: “The word is Morgan Sindall may have a slightly cheaper bid but Kier has put in a very detailed bid and can’t be ruled out.”

The £20m project would see an ETFE roofing canopy erected, similar to that used on the Eden Project.

Up to £16m of the cost will be Network Rail funded with the balance coming from Transport for Greater Manchester.

The improvements are intended to future-proof the station allowing for the imminent electrification of the line to Liverpool and would also take into account big improvements planned under the Northern Hub upgrade proposals.

Plans to improve Victoria station further include new shops and cafes, better Metrolink facilities, and refurbishment and renewal of the Grade II listed station building.

If consent is granted early, construction would begin in summer 2013 with completion by winter 2014.

Graham Botham, programme sponsor at Network Rail, said:*“Our plans see Victoria transformed by the end of 2014, acting as a further catalyst in an area where the Co-operative Group is regenerating 20 acres of land around the station.

“That’s why we have been working so closely with the city council and English Heritage to resolve any planning issues resulting from the station’s listed status.”

http://www.constructionenquirer.com/...tation-revamp/
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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #987
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I'm sure it was formerly an earlier timetable than that, with the roof being stripped off Victoria by December this year and then complete by July 2014..
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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #988
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The work was due to start this year. The NR website has the timeline on it with work starting this winter and all been finished by spring 2014. The site still says it is on schedule!!!

The fact that it was not on schedule was hinted at in one of the TfGM meeting notes.


It was my understanding the work to be carried out included the shops etc. The report above implies only the roof is being done and the rest comes under Northern Hub.

What is the truth and why the further delay. The Planning application should have gone in in March but it probably won't go in now until late in the year once a contractor has been appointed.


This should be a relatively simple scheme but it seems impossible to get it underway.

The information given out by NR on anything to do with Rail works in the North in particular the Hub are quite frankly far from accurate. Even NR seem to call everything as being part of the Hub which it isn't. None of the electrification schemes are to do with the Hub so why do repeated refer to it as being part of it.

The quote below is from the NR website on the Northern Hub and shows the Benefits of the Ordsall Chord. The reality is that only one of those quoted benefits is brought about directly from the Chord namely the services to the Aiport. The rest could be achieved without the Chord if required.

"The benefits

Two new fast trains per hour between Manchester Victoria and Liverpool
Six fast trains an hour between Leeds and Manchester (as opposed to four now)
Faster journeys across the north:
Journey times between Leeds and Manchester could be reduced by about 10 minutes
Journey times between Liverpool and Manchester could be reduced by 10-15 minutes
A new direct service through Manchester city centre to Manchester Airport
Faster journey times to Hull, Newcastle and the North East. "
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I'm sure it was formerly an earlier timetable than that, with the roof being stripped off Victoria by December this year and then complete by July 2014..
Maybe it means 'new construction work' starts. Taking down the roof could be considered demolition and therefore that could be handed to a different specialist contractor which isn't mentioned in that story.
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Maybe it means 'new construction work' starts. Taking down the roof could be considered demolition and therefore that could be handed to a different specialist contractor which isn't mentioned in that story.
I thought that
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Old May 13th, 2012, 01:43 AM   #991
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Our bosses were told October this year for the old roof to be taken down. No work over December and the new roof going up next year.

I mean taking down the roof is going to be a serious job. One of Europe's largest cranes will (should) be taking residence in the Fish dock carpark for a while.

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Not too sure the idea of having Victoria station exposed to the elements during the Winter months is the best planning decision ever, particulary since new platforms were put in not long ago!
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Old May 13th, 2012, 02:46 AM   #993
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There will be some sort of scaffolding construction ala-Piccadilly rebuilding style



Cant believe that was back in 98, maaan time goes fast!

As for the new platforms they are under water everyday. Infact the roof over the bays may aswell not be there at all
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In the words of Lord Nelson, roof? I see no roof!
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Old May 13th, 2012, 08:45 AM   #995
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Fascinating picture Tony. That 323 is in GMPTE livery, is it not?

I thought there would be some health and safety issue about having scaffolding and ongoing work right above an open station?
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Thats the livery they came from the Factory in Leeds in Voldemort. I imagine there are regulations but theres no really any other way they can do it. Its the same scheme as they did at Kings Cross, Paddington, Edinburgh Waverley etc
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I think the scaffold is there for H&S Volde, providing a lateral barrier and deck above the working station.
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Thanks guys, I actually thought they were going to strip the whole roof off and leave Victoria bare for a few months!
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I think the scaffold is there for H&S Volde, providing a lateral barrier and deck above the working station.
The technical term is a crash deck, and some of them are masterpieces of scaffolding design - the House of Lords, Marylebone station
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Thanks guys, I actually thought they were going to strip the whole roof off and leave Victoria bare for a few months!
The main platforms are mostly covered by the arena anyway, be the metrolink Platforms that would suffer the most.
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