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Old January 8th, 2011, 02:34 AM   #2001
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Old January 8th, 2011, 04:09 PM   #2002
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Old January 8th, 2011, 08:36 PM   #2003
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Old January 9th, 2011, 12:05 AM   #2004
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Old January 9th, 2011, 12:27 AM   #2005
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I just realised something. There is a city in the UK which is much more badly connected than Norwich. There is not a single intercity motorway or dual carriageway that goes to Derry!

To my previous list I now add, as the top priority;

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-Belfast-Derry motorway

-Derry-Southbound motorway, with an cross border link to Athlone, to serve traffic to the Republic

-The M27 should go from Plymouth to Dover

-The North Wales Motorway should actually be built.

-There should be a London-Southend motorway

-The M2 should be extended to Dover to meet the M27 and north to at least the M25, to actually link it to the rest of the motorway network.

-The A23 south of Gatwick should be the M23

-The A3 should become the M3

-The M3 should become the M30

-There should be two motorway ring roads inside the M25, one around the congestion charge zone and one roughly following the Northern Circular Road and one a bit further out than the Southern Circular Road, the latter being the most urgent.

-Since the M10 number has been freed up, the A1 should become the M10.
THE WHOLE OF IT!!!

-The M4 should be extended to Pembroke

-There should be a M36 from Bournemouth to Salisbury and through to Bristol via Bath

-The M8 shoud be 3x3 and the M8 the whole way

-There should be an M50 from Stoke to Derby and Nottingham

-The M11 to Norwich would meet an M134 from Kings Lynn to Ipswich which would then go through Colchester and Chelmsford to London, to link Ipswich to the capital.

-The Cambridge branch of the M11, presumably renamed M14, would meet the M10 in Peterborough.

-The M180 should be extended to Grimsby in the East to the M62 at Huddersfield in the West.

-There should be a series of links between cities on the would be M10 to cities on the M6.

-The M65 should be extended through Bradford to the M10 to Leeds (also serving as a northern ringroad)

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Old January 9th, 2011, 01:16 AM   #2006
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Its Londonderry.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 01:38 AM   #2007
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Does it matter? Most Slash City inhabitants refer to it as Derry in general speech, even if its officially Londonderry
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Old January 9th, 2011, 04:40 AM   #2008
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Does Belfast has good motorway connections?
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Old January 9th, 2011, 11:12 AM   #2009
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Does it matter? Most Slash City inhabitants refer to it as Derry in general speech, even if its officially Londonderry
It probably matters to a heck of a lot of people!
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Old January 9th, 2011, 12:00 PM   #2010
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Belfast has good motorway connections.

Derry, County Londonderry (that's, AFAICS the way it tends to roll if you don't put a slash in) is rather small - moaning about Derry (which is getting decent roads over the next few years) not having a motorway ought to mean moaning about larger places on the island of Britain - Inverness is larger and further away from the motorway network, and a more important regional hub. Derry doesn't need a motorway connection, nor any roads connections above what's already planned (A5 and A6 dualling). Then again, the old Motorway plans for Northern Ireland, even toned down around Belfast, would have been great to see, and the province would have better roads than the Republic.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 01:06 PM   #2011
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Wikipedia says:

Derry
85,016
Urban
93,512
Metro
237,000

Inverness:

56,660

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Does Belfast has good motorway connections?
It has a couple of motorways though the city centre, so it's okay
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Old January 9th, 2011, 04:26 PM   #2012
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Sorry, I thought Inverness was bigger than that - however it's more important as a regional hub.

That Derry Metro area is anything within 20 miles. It's a completely meaningless figure.

Still, Derry doesn't need anything more than what's planned, and only then because of it's importance, not it's population - and I'd argue that the traffic levels don't really deserve those DCs for much of the length.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 05:11 PM   #2013
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So did I

I'm not denying that Inverness needs better connections, although I still think that Northern Ireland has the least suitable infrastructure in the country, however apparently they are already dualling the A2 within the city, or something like that.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #2014
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Derry and Londonderry are pretty much interchangeable. Derry is the original name based on the Irish name Doire, while Londonderry is the official name. It is the commonly used name in Ireland; people on the mainland tend to call it Londonderry because that's the name that's on the map and was, at least until fairly recently, the name it was referred to as on the news (which was quite often during the Troubles).

Londonderry is used on road signs in the North (Doire/Derry in the South) and is used by Protestants when they want to be sectarian about it. Catholics regard it as something as an absurdity, which you might understand if you add "London" onto the front of any other place name.

It's actually quite a small city, which may well explain why there isn't a motorway reaching it from Belfast. It's nowhere near the size of Norwich.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 07:59 PM   #2015
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It would be much easier to to know where new motorways should be constructed if we knew the traffic volumes. Where are they published ?
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Old January 9th, 2011, 08:53 PM   #2016
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/matrix/Default.aspx
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Old January 9th, 2011, 09:23 PM   #2017
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It says "this page is unsupported" but thanks
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Old January 9th, 2011, 09:43 PM   #2018
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Here's a direct link to the interactive map:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/matrix/Map.aspx
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Old January 9th, 2011, 09:49 PM   #2019
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Same result
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Old January 9th, 2011, 10:33 PM   #2020
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Try it with Internet Explorer. I am using Opera 11 and it wasn't working.
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