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Old April 5th, 2011, 09:53 PM   #2181
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That is a notorious motorway, I'd like to go there.
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Old April 5th, 2011, 09:56 PM   #2182
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Old April 5th, 2011, 10:03 PM   #2183
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It begins on roundabout and ends up in the same way.


Could not do any better, sorry.






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Old April 5th, 2011, 10:06 PM   #2184
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Thank you! I want to go down there even more now
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Old April 6th, 2011, 05:27 PM   #2185
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M50 is very special. I like that motorway too.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 05:46 PM   #2186
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Most of M50 opened in 1960. It is indeed one of the older motorways of Britain, and one of the few that has not been changed much since opening.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 07:28 PM   #2187
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Indeed, apparently it was built due to a mistake in a traffic count, and ended up not being so busy
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Old April 6th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #2188
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It would've made more sense if it was extended to Newport. This could save some tolls, and a (relatively minor) detour via Bristol.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 08:04 PM   #2189
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Now that's a motorway exit

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,75.38,,0,5.18
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Old April 6th, 2011, 09:45 PM   #2190
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One thing I realized today. Cars in the UK has 'GB' on their number plate, while the driving licence's have 'UK'. I'd always thought that the EU had a regulation that a member state's licence's and number plates must match with the same country identification letters. For example, Germany is 'D', Austria is 'A', Spain is 'ES', Denmark is 'DK', etc... It's ok for a country to not have different letters on the car's number plate and their driving licence's? I find that strange. How come the UK doesn't want to have the same lettering?
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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:15 PM   #2191
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Its all part of the same name anyway, "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"...I guess Ukraine or somewhere already has "UK" for their number plates?? Techincally GB for the purposes of identifing a country of origin is wrong because its a geographical reference to the Island of Great Britain, rather than a country (United Kingdom). I suppose its like referring to "America", rather than United States.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:17 PM   #2192
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Ukraine has UA.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #2193
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UK is less political I guess. I presume that the international code is older than the placement of "UK" on driving licenses, I'm not sure that everybody in Northern Ireland would appreciate "GB", or for half it's population "UK" for that matter
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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:21 PM   #2194
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Also, Northern Ireland have different plates from the rest of the UK iirc.

Edit: I wrote this before I saw the post above me.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:34 PM   #2195
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But legally, eurobands on NI plates are only valid if they have "GB", but as I aid I guess its an earlier development.
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One thing I realized today. Cars in the UK has 'GB' on their number plate, while the driving licence's have 'UK'. I'd always thought that the EU had a regulation that a member state's licence's and number plates must match with the same country identification letters. For example, Germany is 'D', Austria is 'A', Spain is 'ES', Denmark is 'DK', etc... It's ok for a country to not have different letters on the car's number plate and their driving licence's? I find that strange. How come the UK doesn't want to have the same lettering?
Spain has E, not ES.
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Old April 7th, 2011, 01:10 AM   #2197
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Spain is 'ES'
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Old April 7th, 2011, 01:31 AM   #2198
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Motorways in the UK are often quite busy so I think a speed limit of more than 80mph might not actually make traffic go any faster.
You've never been on the M1 near Watford Gap in fairly heavy (but not overloaded) traffic, have you? Tailgating in the inside lane at indicated speeds of 80+ mph. 80mph won't raise the average speed that much, mostly as when people can safely do it, most of them do an indicated 80mph or more anyway.

Also, it's been proven in studies that altering the speed limit (and doing nothing else) doesn't affect traffic speed by much (3mph tops)
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Indeed, apparently it was built due to a mistake in a traffic count, and ended up not being so busy
No mistake in the traffic count. 50 years ago, there was major coal mining industry in South Wales, and major industry in Birmingham and the North, so made a lot of sense to get freight traffic out of the Malvern hills by bypassing the poor bits of the A449 through Malvern (with the bonus of the A38-A40(-A48) route as well) to give a better South Wales - Midlands route. Now there's less demand for freight traffic on that axis, the M50 looks a bit silly, but as a new build road, linking in with the M5, to fairly high (for 1960) standards, what would be the reason to not have it as motorway?
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It would've made more sense if it was extended to Newport. This could save some tolls, and a (relatively minor) detour via Bristol.
The rest of the route to Newport is good enough - other than the traffic lights at Monmouth, and the roundabouts at Ross it's the same standard throughout (if not better aligned south of Ross). Anyone who wants to save tolls and a detour via Bristol takes it unless they ignore the signage and don't look at a map. I know the Netherlands has few non-autosnelweg expressways, but that doesn't mean everything has to be a blue line on maps.
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Old April 7th, 2011, 02:21 AM   #2199
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Its all part of the same name anyway, "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"...I guess Ukraine or somewhere already has "UK" for their number plates?? Techincally GB for the purposes of identifing a country of origin is wrong because its a geographical reference to the Island of Great Britain, rather than a country (United Kingdom). I suppose its like referring to "America", rather than United States.
Yes, but Ukraine is not part of the EU. If they were, then using UK might be an issue.
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Spain has E, not ES.
Yup, you're right. Thanks for the correction.
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