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Old June 7th, 2011, 11:38 PM   #2381
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Good stuff!

Anyone have any updates on the N1 in Northern Ireland?
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Old June 8th, 2011, 12:35 AM   #2382
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There's no N1 in NI - do you mean the A1? There's photos upthread of the Newry bypass bypass but there's not been anything since that.
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Old June 8th, 2011, 02:09 AM   #2383
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Ah yes that is what I meant. Is it near motorway standard to the border or is it still pretty basic?
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Old June 8th, 2011, 02:38 PM   #2384
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from the border northwards to the end of the new Newry bypass bypass, it's what is often called 'motorway standard'.

North of there, there's no stopping until the junction with the A101 (where the A1 ceases to be part of the Dublin-Belfast route), but there's still a couple of right turns, lots of 'tight' bends and 'steep' hills, and there's some driveways and such.
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Old June 13th, 2011, 12:12 PM   #2385
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Old June 13th, 2011, 06:37 PM   #2386
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Historic opening in 1959.

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Old June 13th, 2011, 08:10 PM   #2387
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Old June 13th, 2011, 09:54 PM   #2388
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The 1959 video is quite interesting
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Old June 14th, 2011, 01:13 AM   #2389
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The fascination with the motorway at that time is very nostalgic.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 03:05 PM   #2390
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Old June 14th, 2011, 03:06 PM   #2391
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Old June 14th, 2011, 03:24 PM   #2392
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That 1959 footage is fantastic! It reminds me of a wonderful 1960s postcard I once saw of a restaurant built over the M1 somewhere. Not sure where or if it is still there?

I find British motorway signage not too good though, aesthetically and from the point of view of clarity.

The gantries look like something from a Soviet shipyard and the short downward-pointing arrows look dated. Often it isn't very clear which lane you should be in for which destination and often the different elements seem jumbled up.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 05:06 PM   #2393
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Personally, I have never had any problems with British signage. I heard lots of people complaining about it but I really don't know what you guys are talking about.
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I find the motorway overheads ugly, and the little lane arrows are hard to see. This is mostly a matter of esthetics, and once you've grasped that the different signs on a given gantry line up with the lanes they serve it's probably perfectly easy to navigate.
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Yeah, they are a bit ugly, but I'm just used to it so I don't really notice
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Indeed. It's a motorway, and motorways are not meant to be aesthetically pleasing, so get over it (not directed at you Daniel).
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Opinions were invited. "Get over it," indeed.
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Why exactly do so many signs in the UK have that grey background? I've seen regular roadside signs like that too..
I don't know, but here's an example: Google Street View M23/M25 interchange. Why are there separate blue signs on a grey background? This is what I meant by a jumbled effect.

A motorway's purpose isn't to be aesthetically pleasing, but usually some care goes into making sure they are (on the lighting, signage, landscaping etc).
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Yeah I think so. The blue signs can be affixed to the grey bits I believe, so if they want to change the signs they don't have to change the whole thing. Also they are small and such
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I find the motorway overheads ugly, and the little lane arrows are hard to see. This is mostly a matter of esthetics, and once you've grasped that the different signs on a given gantry line up with the lanes they serve it's probably perfectly easy to navigate.
British direction signage is one of the best signage systems in the world. It is aesthetical and informative which is rarely achieved elsewhere on this planet.

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Why exactly do so many signs in the UK have that grey background? I've seen regular roadside signs like that too..
British road signage uses several direction signs on gantries. It is, however, rather difficult to mount signs individually in different heights on a gantry. Thus, they create one large grey backed auxiliary sign and place the direction signs in the shape of panels on it.
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