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Old June 23rd, 2011, 06:37 PM   #2501
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You so have to slow down if you see a camera, but a police car won't pull you over for doing 80.

British service stations are much bigger than the continental ones generally, although there are exceptions of course.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 06:56 PM   #2502
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British motorways are horrible. They are big, noisy and dirty. And yes, you do get fined if you park longer then 2 hours without paying the charge. A while back I was on the M1 in the middle of the night. Got off the ferry, was heading up north, and I felt I needed to stop for a few hours. That turned into 6 hours at Toddington, a few weeks later I got a letter with an 80 pound fine. They register you numberplate with camera's now. It probably won't affect you if you park with a foreign numberplate, but you're screwed if you got a British one....
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 08:49 PM   #2503
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British motorways are horrible. They are big, noisy and dirty. And yes, you do get fined if you park longer then 2 hours without paying the charge. A while back I was on the M1 in the middle of the night. Got off the ferry, was heading up north, and I felt I needed to stop for a few hours. That turned into 6 hours at Toddington, a few weeks later I got a letter with an 80 pound fine. They register you numberplate with camera's now. It probably won't affect you if you park with a foreign numberplate, but you're screwed if you got a British one....
Find it difficult to disagree, fortunately you're in a van, try an artic and you have more problems as the parking areas are small to say the least. Services are pretty foul as you say, very expensive and ill cared for, hence the operators no longer use their own names, just those of the shops within.

Must admit, I am intrigued how you can drive for a Bradford company (phone number) but live in Mayrhofen. Works sounds interesting tho.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 12:14 AM   #2504
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In my experience, the best thing about British service stations is the huge toilets. The last two times I was travelling through France on coach trips there were queues for the BLOKES' toilets!!
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Old June 24th, 2011, 12:45 AM   #2505
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In my experience, the best thing about British service stations is the huge toilets. The last two times I was travelling through France on coach trips there were queues for the BLOKES' toilets!!
Toilets are ok and fairly clean. Showers are a nightmare, unless you enjoy standing onto your waste in pubic hair....
Best showers are in Germany and Austria....
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Old June 24th, 2011, 12:47 AM   #2506
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Find it difficult to disagree, fortunately you're in a van, try an artic and you have more problems as the parking areas are small to say the least. Services are pretty foul as you say, very expensive and ill cared for, hence the operators no longer use their own names, just those of the shops within.

Must admit, I am intrigued how you can drive for a Bradford company (phone number) but live in Mayrhofen. Works sounds interesting tho.
I was stilll fully living in the UK (Stevenage) when I started this job back in 2001, but being anywhere in Europe it doesn't matter where you live, so I got myself an appartment in Mayrhofen. Still got my place in Stevenage though.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 12:59 AM   #2507
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I recently had to stop for an extended period (several hours) at Clackett Lane services on the M25, which is just south of London.
I know it well. Couple of years ago I have spent night or two over there while hitchhiking in the UK

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The speed limits are enforced, and they sometimes have vans parked on bridges with speed cameras inside. They also have cameras on the better-used stretches such as the south-western part of the M25. There is no serious possibility of the speed limit being raised any time soon. The road safety and fuel efficiency arguments would be used against it in any debate.
Speed cameras (including in parked vans) are well marked so you only have to slow down for a moment, you can hardly call it enforcement
Of course M25 with variable speed limit is a bit of special case.
I usually drive around 85mph and never got ticket.
And there are now quite serious efforts to increase the speed limit. I suspect it will be used by politicians to please drivers a bit. Government has very bad press among the drivers due to high fuel prices and very little road building. Raising speed limit is easy way for some good press among millions of drivers.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 12:59 AM   #2508
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Dude you're a concrete cowboy Just roaming Europe.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:28 PM   #2509
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Glasgow M74 completion opening next week, giving us a full inner ring road.
It won't give a full inner ring road, as there is no link between the M74 and the M8 over the Kingston Bridge.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:45 PM   #2510
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It won't give a full inner ring road, as there is no link between the M74 and the M8 over the Kingston Bridge.
I think the reason for that is to discourage people using the M74 extension for short distance trips from/to the city centre via the M8
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:49 PM   #2511
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Indeed it is.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 05:16 PM   #2512
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The M74 had a lot of it's justification based on relieving the Kingston Bridge - to send all SE <-> City Centre traffic, that doesn't currently use it, over it (though removing E/SE <-> Airport and West traffic from it - depending on how much diverts off the M80 and M8) would undermine that!
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Old June 24th, 2011, 07:31 PM   #2513
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To be honest, I think the M8 was misplaced. Running a motorway thought a city centre is never a good idea as it just attract shit loads of cars, then you need another motorway to help congestion (M74) etc. Before you know it Glasgow is Scotland's LA.

Its the only city in the UK with a proper urban motorway network. A 1960s transport planners dream!
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Old June 24th, 2011, 10:20 PM   #2514
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To be honest, I think the M8 was misplaced. Running a motorway thought a city centre is never a good idea as it just attract shit loads of cars, then you need another motorway to help congestion (M74) etc. Before you know it Glasgow is Scotland's LA.

Its the only city in the UK with a proper urban motorway network. A 1960s transport planners dream!
I disagree. If the M8 hadn't been built, Glasgow would be at least as congested as it is (I would say more so) while taking much less traffic than it does. A huge number of the business trips, leisure and social trips etc that add to the economy and benefit of society would not take place and that would be a major loss.

The main problem with a setup such as Glasgow's was is that in general a single motorway does not function well as both an access to a city centre and as a through route. Birmingham and the M6 fall into the same category in my opinion.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 10:53 PM   #2515
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If the full plans (map) had come about, most through traffic wouldn't be on the IRR as there would have been lots of alternative motorway/expressway options.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 04:32 PM   #2516
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Road Porn :-)

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Old June 27th, 2011, 11:38 PM   #2517
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A very rare view in this country Anyway this case of gantries on M74 seems interesting. They do look outdated and somehow different to those installed in England.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 12:57 AM   #2518
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they are different gantries - Glasgow has it's own gantry style - look at the M8 on Streetview for instance.

You can walk (bent over) inside the gantries, which are all backlit - hence the chunky and old-fashioned look.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 01:19 AM   #2519
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......more road porn :-)

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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:08 AM   #2520
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Looks to nice to let traffic drive on it and mess it up!
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