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Old January 18th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #241
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It's not directly comparable, since Britain's motorways are almost always 2x3 lanes, and Dutch motorways are almost always 2x2 lanes.

And i'm not familiar with truck traffic in Britain, but Antwerp and Rotterdam are one of Europe's largest ports. Every 3 seconds, a truck departs from Antwerp, and this is arguably even higher in Rotterdam (larger harbor).

On some Belgian and Dutch motorways, the right lane is one line of trucks for miles and miles.
True, there is obviously more through-traffic in Benelux and Rhein-Ruhr whereas everthing in Britain is going to or from a British destination (except for a small amount between Ireland and the continent).

I have noticed a huge increase in commercial traffic in recent years on British motorways though, it's not unusual to have congested motorways where 50% of the traffic is trucks and vans, even in the midlands away from the ports.
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Old January 18th, 2008, 04:43 PM   #242
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Around the Midlands there are a lot of huge retail distribution centres so a lot of commercial traffic goes from around there up and down the M1, up the M6 etc. I'd seen them before whilst being driven along the M1 but didn't realise the huge scale until I watched The Secret Life of The Motorway which was on BBC4 a while back, don't think it's been mentioned in the thread but I found it very interesting about the growth of the UK motorway network and more recently protests around expanding it.
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Old January 18th, 2008, 05:05 PM   #243
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Around the Midlands there are a lot of huge retail distribution centres so a lot of commercial traffic goes from around there up and down the M1, up the M6 etc.
Yes, there is a huge new one that I pass on the train every day near to the M5 near Birmingham, I think it's Parceline but I could be wrong. There are well over 100 loading bays, it must be almost a kilometre long.
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Old February 14th, 2008, 11:22 PM   #244
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M74 Expansion, Glasgow

M74 Expansion Given Final Go-Ahead
Ministers have given the final go-ahead to the extension of the M74 through south east Glasgow with the awarding of a £445m contract.

Transport Minister Stewart Stevenson approved the tender from the sole bidder, Interlink M74 - a consortium of construction companies.

Campaigners against the link said the tender was against competition rules.

Mr Stevenson said procurement was robust. Work is expected to begin in May and end in 2011.

The Scottish Government said the scheme would reduce congestion and provide links to regeneration projects in the east end of Glasgow.

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Mr Stevenson said: "This project is also a crucial piece of the infrastructure which is required to provide excellent transport facilities for the visitors and athletes expected in the city as a result of the 2014 Commonwealth Games," he said.

Glasgow City Council leader Steven Purcell said the scheme was tremendous news.

The contract for £445m - plus an allowance of £12m for the possible treatment of mine workings - was awarded to a consortium which brought together Morgan Est, Balfour Beatty, Morrisons and McAlpines.

The Scottish Green Party said it was in breach of European competition rules.

One of its members lodged a complaint with the European Commission.

Glasgow Green MSP Patrick Harvie said the decision marked a "dark day" for the city.

"A sham tender process has been concluded with a sham review and an entirely irresponsible decision, given that the European Commission may pull the plug on the process altogether," he said.

Mr Stevenson said: "Following an internal review of the procurement processes the government is confident that the procedures are robust and we are happy for Glasgow City Council to award the contract to the Interlink M74 Joint Venture."

The five-mile extension is designed to connect the M74 to the M8, west of the Kingston Bridge in Glasgow.

Business leaders said the route would bring "significant economic benefits" to Glasgow.

Environmental campaigners said they were deeply disappointed by the decision.

Dr Dan Barlow, acting director of WWF Scotland, said: "At a time when we really need to see concerted and joined-up action by government to reduce our climate emissions, the last thing we need is yet another road building project."

The project had been backed by the Scottish Executive despite being rejected by a planning reporter after a public inquiry.





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Old February 15th, 2008, 12:49 AM   #245
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I'm wondering how many lanes will have this new stretch of motorway
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Old February 15th, 2008, 01:09 AM   #246
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I took a look on GE and there's a densely built-up area between M8 exit and Eglinton St. How are they going to get that section done? For me it's either a tunnel or razing a few warehouses
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Old February 15th, 2008, 01:14 AM   #247
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3 lanes both sides, so six lanes in total plus hard-shoulder.

Allot of land has been cleared for the motorway and other sections will be on a flyover.



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6 lanes with shoulders plus a long flyover....impressive!!
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Edit: The rest of the planned route seems to run through an easy terrain-good for Glasgow!

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Old February 15th, 2008, 06:34 PM   #249
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Quite remarkable they are building a motorway at all in the United Kingdom... It has like the slowest pace of motorway construction in the world.
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Old February 15th, 2008, 08:20 PM   #251
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It seems that most motorway projects in England were killed in the 1990s... The only stretches of blue line to be actually build are along the A1 corridor.
In Northern Ireland all motorway construction was stopped in 1975 (except for a few stretches...) and the proposed 1960s plan dropped.
Scotland is building (actually completing) its network at a respectable pace : completion of the M8, the opening of the M77 last year...
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Old February 16th, 2008, 01:27 AM   #252
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In Poland we complain how slow is road construction in our country.
We can always say that at least we are not as slow as UK
You know just to make as feel good.
Or at lest not as bad and complaining as usulall.
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Good stuff.

How did this get past the NIMBY brigade though? Werent they up in arms about it?
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Old February 16th, 2008, 08:08 PM   #254
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In Poland we complain how slow is road construction in our country.
We can always say that at least we are not as slow as UK
You know just to make as feel good.
Or at lest not as bad and complaining as usulall.
Yeah, but the UK has a much better road/motorway infrastructure than Poland.

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In Northern Ireland all motorway construction was stopped in 1975 (except for a few stretches...) and the proposed 1960s plan dropped.
Will there ever be a full motorway between Belfast and Dublin?
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Old February 16th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #255
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Quite remarkable they are building a motorway at all in the United Kingdom... It has like the slowest pace of motorway construction in the world.
The UK is an island nation. It doesn't need the same amount of motorways as say, the Netherlands. That being said, it could do with the following new motorways (in my opinion):

- A motorway linking Newcastle to Edinburgh (converting the A1 to A1(M) all the way)

- A motorway linking Norwich/East Anglia to London

- A "South Coast" motorway going from Dover to Plymouth (an extension of the M27)

- A complete upgrade of the A34 (the road linking the channel ports of Portsmouth and Southampton with the Midlands) to motorway standard (it'd probably be called the A34(M).

- Widening of the M25 to a minimum of 5 lanes all the way

- A new "Western Orbital" motorway for Birmingham/West Midlands to take traffic out of the Black Country

- Upgrading the A14 to motorway standard

- Extending the M5 all the way down to Plymouth

- Widening the M8/A8 between Glasgow and Edinburgh to a minimum of 4 lanes each way, upgrading it to 100% motorway standard

These are just a few upgrades that'd really help ease congestion over there, but if they were ever actioned, I'd like to see them combined with greater investment in public transportation.
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Yeah, but the UK has a much better road/motorway infrastructure than Poland.

Will there ever be a full motorway between Belfast and Dublin?
Its motorway/HQDC all the way to the NI border at the moment, then bits of single carriageway, some at grade DC and then motorway again to Belfast.

I think the plan is to make the remainder DC anyway, but whether it'll be motorway in name I dont know.
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The UK is an island nation. It doesn't need the same amount of motorways as say, the Netherlands. That being said, it could do with the following new motorways (in my opinion):

- A motorway linking Newcastle to Edinburgh (converting the A1 to A1(M) all the way)

- A motorway linking Norwich/East Anglia to London

- A "South Coast" motorway going from Dover to Plymouth (an extension of the M27)

- A complete upgrade of the A34 (the road linking the channel ports of Portsmouth and Southampton with the Midlands) to motorway standard (it'd probably be called the A34(M).

- Widening of the M25 to a minimum of 5 lanes all the way

- A new "Western Orbital" motorway for Birmingham/West Midlands to take traffic out of the Black Country

- Upgrading the A14 to motorway standard

- Extending the M5 all the way down to Plymouth

- Widening the M8/A8 between Glasgow and Edinburgh to a minimum of 4 lanes each way, upgrading it to 100% motorway standard

These are just a few upgrades that'd really help ease congestion over there, but if they were ever actioned, I'd like to see them combined with greater investment in public transportation.
I would add also extension of M67 from Manchester to Sheffield
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Old February 17th, 2008, 01:07 AM   #258
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Good stuff.

How did this get past the NIMBY brigade though? Werent they up in arms about it?
They tried their best to stop this but the Government basically told them where do go
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Some more detailed images of junctions.









Can’t wait for this to be completed!
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Mr Stevenson said: "This project is also a crucial piece of the infrastructure which is required to provide excellent transport facilities for the visitors and athletes expected in the city as a result of the 2014 Commonwealth Games," he said.
It's kinda sad that they only build infrastructure to look good to foreigners and athletes, but they don't give a shit about their own inhabitants transportation needs. This road should have been completed decades ago.
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