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Old October 8th, 2011, 03:58 AM   #2741
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In an almost unbelievable event, 2 miles of motorway opened in England yesterday - the A1(M) between Dishforth (49) and Baldersby (50). One expects the opening ceremony to happen when the whole scheme to Leeming is open, though the M80 this summer didn't really have one.
Google maps needs to hurry up and update! M8 in Glasgow still doesn't show up!
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Old October 8th, 2011, 09:20 AM   #2742
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You mean the M74. That's more important than the other motorways open this year, as it provides a route planning alternative.

IIRC, the street view update (and probably a related mapping update) happened the day before they opened the M74 and not long before the Hindhead tunnel opened.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 02:57 PM   #2743
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You mean the M74. That's more important than the other motorways open this year, as it provides a route planning alternative.

IIRC, the street view update (and probably a related mapping update) happened the day before they opened the M74 and not long before the Hindhead tunnel opened.
Yeah M74! And M80 aswell
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Old October 13th, 2011, 06:27 PM   #2744
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Major M62 work begins at Junction 27

Major construction work on a £150m scheme to increase capacity, reduce congestion and improve safety on the M62 through Morley has officially started.

The managed motorway scheme - the first of its kind in the north - covers a 15-and-a-half-mile section of the M62 between Junction 25 at Brighouse and Junction 30 at Rothwell. It is one of 14 schemes due to start before 2015 being delivered as part of a £1.4bn government package of strategic road projects to boost the economy.

Roads Minister Mike Penning was in Morley this morning to view the start of the work from the vantage point of the M62 road bridge on Howden Clough Road at Bruntcliffe.

He said: “While this will be Yorkshire’s first managed motorway, experience elsewhere in the country shows that they deliver significant safety and journey time benefits. That’s why I am delighted work is getting underway today to provide much-needed additional capacity for more than 140,000 road users that travel on this key route daily.

“This start of work shows the Government is delivering on its promise to invest in transport schemes that reduce congestion, improve safety, and support economic growth. It’s also good news for jobs. At the height of construction, around 400 people will be working on this scheme.”

The first phase of construction will focus on the stretch between Junction 27 at Gildersome and Junction 28 at Tingley, with construction on other sections starting in phases from next month. The scheme will include overhead gantries and the construction of emergency refuge areas alongside the hard shoulder.

Three lanes will be kept available for traffic in both directions during the works with a 50mph speed limit, enforced with average speed cameras, in place for the safety of road users and the workforce. Some overnight lane closures will be required during the scheme and full motorway closures (normally overnight) will be required from Spring next year for gantry installation. Work on the scheme is expected to be completed in October 2013.

Highways Agency project manager David Pilsworth said: “In order to minimise delays to road users, we are carrying out this work in phases and keeping three lanes available to traffic in both directions at peak times throughout the construction. We are also working closely with residents in the area to address any questions they may have.”

Preparatory work - site clearance and the installation of traffic management - started in late September.
http://www.morleyobserver.co.uk/news...n_27_1_3868820
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Old October 13th, 2011, 06:45 PM   #2745
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A "managed motorway scheme" is shoulder running?
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Old October 13th, 2011, 06:51 PM   #2746
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and variable speed limits, yes.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #2747
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and variable speed limits, yes.
I hate this managed motorway shit that they keed on using as an excuse for apparent progress!

Hard shoulders are there for a reason! Safety, if you have cars driving on them then you might aswell just make them into a proper lane! And variable speed limits...well they can only make people drive slower which is only what happens anyway when its busy...

...managed motorway = cheap aka URGH!
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Old October 13th, 2011, 07:42 PM   #2748
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Well, shoulder running is better than no widening at all (which is the most likely alternative unfortunately).
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Old October 14th, 2011, 05:45 AM   #2749
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A "managed motorway scheme" is shoulder running?
British newspeak, does my head in.
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Old October 14th, 2011, 10:56 PM   #2750
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That stretch of the M62 is congested at peak hours every single day, and long delays are not uncommon. Something had to be done. And it had to be done a long time ago. This goes to show that Britain is lacking well behind on its European partners when it comes to motorway management. Last week they've implemented another trial scheme on the M11 that prohibits lorries from overtaking. It's only a mile long, and they've been doing these for years now all over the UK, without any actual HGV overtaking bans coming into force on major 2x2 motorways and dual carriageways like the M11, M42 and A14.
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What 80mph limit means for you

Increasing motorway speed limits to 80mph may sound like a good idea, but will drivers benefit? Auto Express asked how the industry felt about the key issues.

You won’t be able to drive any faster
That's the opinion of Traffic Master, which monitors jams across the UK. It claims congestion and roadworks mean drivers are lucky to do more than 55mph on the motorway. “That’s the average speed on half the network during the day,” its spokesman said. And if the roadworks don’t get you, the fuel prices will, says the AA. “For the vast majority of motorists, it’s their budget and their cars’ fuel consumption that dictates how they drive, not the speed limit,” its spokesman said.

Journey times are likely to decrease
Transport Secretary Philip Hammond believes this will be the case. He argues the increase “could provide hundreds of millions of pounds of benefits for the economy”, generated by lowering average journey times. However, an AA spokesman said: “It could just speed drivers into a bottleneck quicker.”

The roads will be safer
There has been a 75 per cent drop in road fatalities since 1965, when the 70mph limit was introduced. And Hammond argued: “Technology advances mean cars are significantly safer than they were.” But not all cars on UK roads are new, or sporting the latest safety technology to cope with the increased stopping distances required at 80mph. It rises to nearly 30 car lengths at that speed.

Drivers’ carbon footprints will go up
“The environmental impact would be quite modest,” a Department for Transport (DfT) spokeswoman claimed, adding that total vehicle emissions would increase by about one per cent. But what about the impact of cars alone, as HGVs are not included in the proposals? Tests carried out on 2007 models suggest CO2 emissions could increase by as much as 21 per cent in the jump from 70 to 80mph.

Reprieve for speeders
The plan has been criticised for pandering to motorists already breaking the speed limit. Hammond said: “Raising the limit to 80mph would mean that millions of otherwise law-abiding motorists would be brought back inside the boundary.” That logic doesn’t appear to apply to rule changes proposed to increase the number of 20mph zones, which some motorists also ignore.

You’ll use more fuel
The faster you drive, the more fuel you use. The AA claims economy could drop by up to 20 per cent if jumping from 70 to 80mph, which supports our figures below. The DfT hasn’t mentioned the impact of its proposed rule changes on motorists’ fuel bills, but a spokesman for charity Campaign for Better Transport claimed: “The Treasury [is] set to gain half a billion pounds in extra fuel duty and VAT payments every year.”

No bans for 100mph
That's probably true, says the Sentencing Council for England and Wales. The ban normally kicks in if motorists are caught driving at 101mph or more. But a Sentencing Council spokesman said “a proportionate increase is likely”. So a ban wouldn’t be triggered until you hit 111mph.

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What a wonderful list of nonsense, which totally ignores the fact people drive close to 80 already anyway. It's just legalizing an already existing situation.
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Old October 15th, 2011, 11:48 AM   #2753
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That stretch of the M62 is congested at peak hours every single day, and long delays are not uncommon. Something had to be done. And it had to be done a long time ago. This goes to show that Britain is lacking well behind on its European partners when it comes to motorway management. Last week they've implemented another trial scheme on the M11 that prohibits lorries from overtaking. It's only a mile long, and they've been doing these for years now all over the UK, without any actual HGV overtaking bans coming into force on major 2x2 motorways and dual carriageways like the M11, M42 and A14.
There's a section of the A1M on the southbound carriageway between J63 & J62 where any vehicle over 7.5t is banned from overtaking. Strange thing is that European drivers take notice but British & Irish drivers ignore the ban.
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What a wonderful list of nonsense, which totally ignores the fact people drive close to 80 already anyway. It's just legalizing an already existing situation.
From my experience there is still a majority of British driver who stick to the 112 km/h. 130 km/h is certainly not the norm.
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I have no idea where you had that experience, 130km/h is the norm, and you can easily get overtaken going at 130
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Old October 15th, 2011, 03:29 PM   #2756
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What a wonderful list of nonsense, which totally ignores the fact people drive close to 80 already anyway. It's just legalizing an already existing situation.
I agree with that. And the motorways in the UK are built for at least 130-140 km/h.
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There's a section of the A1M on the southbound carriageway between J63 & J62 where any vehicle over 7.5t is banned from overtaking. Strange thing is that European drivers take notice but British & Irish drivers ignore the ban.
These things are usually called "A journeytime trial". Frankly this is rubbish as the journey time of a truck - speed limited and hours limited unlike cars, is of equal importance. The only users with real necessity are the emergency services. Like hard shoulder running or long slip roads as they turn out i.e. the extra lane just runs straight up the next slip road so all you achieve is a lot of lane changing and bunching up at each junction, these are cheap ineffective solutions to congestion. The UK loves roads, I mean where else can you guarantee £36bn every year in tax ? We just don't spent it back on infrastructure.
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I have no idea where you had that experience,
On British motorways.

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Certainly. But you overtake much more cars yourself at this speed.
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A few, but not that many, mainly old people
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Old October 17th, 2011, 01:53 AM   #2760
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In yet another unannounced opening (OK, this one is really rather late - the bank collapsed, and maps put the revised date of 'Mid 2011'), the new A16 between Peterborough and Spalding opened today.
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