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Old May 29th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #2921
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So it seems like running hard shoulder is something like auxiliary lane between the junctions. It sounds like good idea.

But it still leaves issue of emergency response. What happens if there is an accident and all lanes and hard shoulders are jammed with cars?
Not everyone loves German motorways , however they know what to do in case of an accident or a traffic jam.

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Old May 30th, 2012, 12:15 AM   #2922
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And that stretch does actually have a hard shoulder... Better than here in Norway, where we don't get the concept of hard shoulders. Several hours to get wrecked cars towed away? Normal, even in towns where tow trucks are pretty common, and available from several directions. They sometimes go against the traffic (with police escort) to get to the accident.

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Old May 31st, 2012, 06:12 PM   #2923
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Ok, I will paste some photos here as I was in Gibraltar this Saturday and took a lot of photos
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 12:44 PM   #2924
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Still waiting... I would love to see them.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 12:48 AM   #2925
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I have heard some rumours that UK will raise speed limit(80m/h) on motorway in 2013. Is that true and is there any link to the explanation?
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Old June 13th, 2012, 11:17 AM   #2926
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I have heard some rumours that UK will raise speed limit(80m/h) on motorway in 2013. Is that true and is there any link to the explanation?
Various newspaper reports can be viewed in the following links. There's also a proposal to reduce the speed limit in some urban areas to 20mph.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sed-80mph.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...t-raised-80mph

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-2362980.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15116064

No concrete date has been given yet as to when it will happen. If indeed it does.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 03:18 PM   #2927
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One of the most annoying things I encountered while driving from Dover to Canterbury was the way that roundabouts were (not) signposted in any way. Example: https://maps.google.com/?ll=51.15477...,247.37,,0,6.2

I had the luck of having my GPS with me, which clearly showed me when to expect a roundabout because, especially at night, roundabouts were very hard to spot. If the roundabout isn't on a hill, it's usually quite visible, like here: https://maps.google.com/?ll=51.14335...,,0,-3.33&z=19 But even then, they may sometimes pop up behind a corner without warning, I've experienced. Is it just me or am I overlooking something?
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Old June 14th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #2928
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You are probably overlooking something. I never had that problem in the UK. I am more likely to get lost in Italy or Belgium, due to inadequate signposting.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 04:00 PM   #2929
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In my opinion, signage is definitely not a concern in British roads, though they demand more work from the driver (i.e., all roads and streets are two-way no matter how narrow they are, there are few speed limits lower than the general one even at intersections or roundabouts and they are almost no overtaking bans). Once used to think more than usual, it becomes automatic to expect roundabouts, oncoming traffic or pedestrian crossings and you start to drive more cautiously. Wish it was like that in Spain, all streets here are one-way and there are "stop" signs at every corner.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 04:17 PM   #2930
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You are probably overlooking something. I never had that problem in the UK. I am more likely to get lost in Italy or Belgium, due to inadequate signposting.
Seriously? Flanders and an inadequate singposting? That must be a joke.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 04:19 PM   #2931
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Here we go again...
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Old June 14th, 2012, 04:27 PM   #2932
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Here we go again...

No, I'm just interested in your statement. I for one always thought that Flemish highways, especially the 3x2 highways, had a sufficient singposting. Unless of course you're talking about our cities. Then you're absolutely right.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 05:11 PM   #2933
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One of the most annoying things I encountered while driving from Dover to Canterbury was the way that roundabouts were (not) signposted in any way. Example: https://maps.google.com/?ll=51.15477...,247.37,,0,6.2
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You are probably overlooking something. I never had that problem in the UK.
Roundabout sign got by going back down the road 200 yrds - it even warns you that it's just after the corner. Note also the junction warning posts telling you how far. Not to mention these 'roundabout ahead - reduce speed now' warning signs about half a kilometre from the roundabout.

Given you show the one with the A258 as an example of a visible roundabout (one on the crest of a hill, but well warned about), and there are only four roundabouts from the docks to the centre of Canterbury (one on the exit of the docks, the two well signed ones on the A2, another obvious one on the A2050), it's not like you've mistaken which one was not signed in any way.

All the exits are signed on the Whitefield Roundabout - but Road_UK misunderstood you - you were wanting a warning before you were right on it, not help with directions.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 07:39 PM   #2934
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I was mainly looking for warning signs at the roundabouts themselves, not for direction signs My bad if I wasn't clear enough. I remember seeing those ahead warning signs indeed. I hadn't noticed those junction warning posts while I was driving there, must be because I wasn't yet fully used to driving on the left at that point. But those do indeed help quite a bit.

I guess the main issue I encountered (for me, not saying this is a general problem or anything) was that I'm used to getting a speed restriction before nearing a junction like that. In overall, I hardly saw any speed signs, which I'm not used to since they're signed a lot in Belgium, France, Germany and the Netherlands (as far as I know). I also can't remember seeing a country entrance sign like you get when you drive into another European country, but again, I might just have overlooked it.

Also, looking back at it now, I think it was the other roundabout on the A2 that got me a bit by surprise on my way back from Canterbury in the dark. I was expecting it, but wasn't sure when to expect it.

Another contributing factor is probably that I didn't use any stickers on my headlights to redirect the light the way it should shine in the UK. I looked for them in the shops on the ferry, but couldn't find any. That probably also resulted in signs not showing up as clearly as they normally would and felt like sharing my experience (which I presume this forum is also about).

Anyway, please don't take this remark of me in a negative way (as it appears that Road_UK did). It was my first drive in the UK and I wasn't very well prepared. I just wanted to get things straight.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #2935
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I was mainly looking for warning signs at the roundabouts themselves, not for direction signs My bad if I wasn't clear enough. I remember seeing those ahead warning signs indeed. I hadn't noticed those junction warning posts while I was driving there, must be because I wasn't yet fully used to driving on the left at that point. But those do indeed help quite a bit.
So you missed the 2 yellow back signs warning you of a roundabout twice - once on the road, once in my post!

Oh, OK, it was a different junction in a different direction - I'll let you off. There's no roundabout warning sign that way, for that roundabout, but there are three direction signs and a good approach, so you should be able to see it.
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I guess the main issue I encountered (for me, not saying this is a general problem or anything) was that I'm used to getting a speed restriction before nearing a junction like that. In overall, I hardly saw any speed signs, which I'm not used to since they're signed a lot in Belgium, France, Germany and the Netherlands (as far as I know).
I've always found less in France, though it's been a long time since I last went there.

There are certainly repeaters on the lit sections of A2 (not to mention the conversion chart) and non-NSL roads have repeaters as well (unless 30mph in towns). In fact, coming out of Dover on the A2 there's quite lots of speed limit signs (along with all sorts of other signs - we accept that drivers new to the country might need lots of help), along with drive on the left ones.
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I also can't remember seeing a country entrance sign like you get when you drive into another European country, but again, I might just have overlooked it.
Why would you - you don't drive into the UK, but get a ro-ro ferry/train? other than from the Republic of Ireland of course: where such signs on the border would be ripped down (they don't even sign the county boundaries between NI and RoI, even though everyone agrees that there's a county boundary there).

That said, I think there's one on the roads in the Channel Tunnel terminal.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 12:16 AM   #2936
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Fermanagh and Donegal sign the county borders, though not always
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Old June 16th, 2012, 10:58 AM   #2937
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Driving in UK is not so hard but before you drive you must know traffic signs and how to handle in different road traffic conditions. Learner drivers must pass their driving test before driving on the public places. There are a lot of study material to pass driving test. To find hazard perception test clips, search hazard perception test on Google and select top search result and practice your theory test with confidence.
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Old June 17th, 2012, 04:21 AM   #2938
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£360m Nottinghamshire dualled-route scheme opens on A46

A new £360m dual carriageway in Nottinghamshire has been officially opened.

The Highways Agency hopes the completed 17-mile (28km) A46 Newark-to-Widmerpool route will reduce congestion and provide a new fast link between the A1 and M1.

New bypasses have also been built for Farndon and East Stoke and eight split-level junctions have been created.

The project began in 2009 after years of campaigning by road safety groups.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-18444223
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Old June 17th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #2939
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I used the new road a couple of times now. It was nice and smooth but I suspect that the surface, being Stone Mastic Asphalt, will soon deteriorate after about 5 years as it has done almost everywhere else it has been used (as a cheap alternative to hot rolled asphalt)

Its newness and concrete barriers makes it quite sterile, featureless and standardised compared to the older stretch of dual carriageway which has its own little quirks with the concrete carriageways, a wide median with bushes and trees and mature landscaping which gives the old dual carriageway a lot more interest. However, I'm sure the new road, as it matures will get better as landscaping grows. Plus let's not forget the massive time savings.

One of my biggest problems however is the roundabout at the north end for two major reasons.

First, it's obvious that three lanes have been crammed into a new roundabout that shoudlhave been marked with just two circulatory lanes. Three lanes makes it very tight on a roundabout which has tight curves. I had to straddle lanes two and three because a hippy van on my left was straddling both lanes one and two.

Second, it's yet another poor example of modern roundabout design. On the approch and entrance to the roundabout, instead of the pre 1990's style of having a deflection before the entrance to the roundabout which would allow you to enter the roundabout at a tangent onto the right lane, the deflection is on the entrance. So instead of the entrance guiding you on a natural tangent into the right lane you face the edge of the roundabout at an awkward angle and have to make a sharp left turn to get into the right lane on the roundabout. The alignment between the left lane of the entrance and the right roundabout lane will also encourage drivers to enter from the left approch lane into the right roundabout lane, so to smooth out the turn onto the roundabout in a 'racing line'. So, expect as always on these new roundabouts, to experience planty of near misses. Having three lanes no doubt will make this worse.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 02:02 PM   #2940
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The M25 widening has now been completed. According to the media, the widening also includes the largest single-span gantry in Europe.

Are there any photos of this gantry?
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