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Old October 2nd, 2014, 03:25 PM   #3841
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Are there any improvement plans for Brighton-Chichester route (A27)?

It is a heavily populated coastal area without good highway links.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 04:02 PM   #3842
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It's not that heavily populated, and the A27 is a dual carriageway with dual carriageway links to the M25. If the need for better links arouses, I am sure they'll discuss it in their local councils with notifications to Tilburg upon request.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 06:07 PM   #3843
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Nice coincidence in the Google maps imagery:
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 10:06 PM   #3844
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After that it's really nice to drive on. M5 is busy from Birmingham to Bristol but do-able. Risk of congestion is relatively low. Same goes for the M4.
Uhhh... I wish that was the case!
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 10:29 PM   #3845
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Compare them to M25, M1 and M6...
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 10:20 AM   #3846
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M40 is one of my favourites. Considering it links London and Birmingham it doesn't seem to get congested too often.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:52 PM   #3847
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I always take M40+M5 when I go London > NW England.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:32 PM   #3848
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What do you think of a potential new highway Swindon-Oxford-Milton Keynes?
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:35 PM   #3849
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What do you think of a potential new highway Swindon-Oxford-Milton Keynes?
That potential is the key word.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:44 PM   #3850
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They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot....
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:56 PM   #3851
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What do you think of a potential new highway Swindon-Oxford-Milton Keynes?
Whats wrong with finishing the A34 from Birmingham ( or M40 near Birmingham) to Southampton FIRST???

That 'job' is still under way 50 years after it started.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:58 PM   #3852
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They don't do Highways in the UK, we call them motorways. But I do agree on a better link. Also an upgrade of A34 between Southampton and Oxford wouldn't me a miss, making Birmingham better accessible with the south coast...
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 04:17 PM   #3853
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It'd be a highway if it was actually built, whether an A or A(M) or M I care not.

A34 today, substandard and highly congested 2+2 in the main. Just like the A14 then.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 04:28 PM   #3854
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They don't do Highways in the UK, we call them motorways. But I do agree on a better link. Also an upgrade of A34 between Southampton and Oxford wouldn't me a miss, making Birmingham better accessible with the south coast...
Highway = major road. A motorway is a highway, as well as any road having an important role in a network.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 04:31 PM   #3855
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Highway = major road. A motorway is a highway, as well as any road having an important role in a network.
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In North American and Australian English, major roads such as controlled-access highways or arterial roads are often state highways (Canada: provincial highways). Other roads may be designated "county highways" in the US and Ontario. These classifications refer to the level of government (state, provincial, county) that maintains the roadway.

In British English, "highway" is primarily a legal term. Everyday use normally implies roads, while the legal use covers any route or path with a public right of access, including footpaths etc.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 04:34 PM   #3856
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Whats wrong with finishing the A34 from Birmingham ( or M40 near Birmingham) to Southampton FIRST???

That 'job' is still under way 50 years after it started.
I think UK needs a major road construction program, something to build many new links, especially in England and Northern Ireland.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 04:40 PM   #3857
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Please file above post as "Road_UK agrees with this" and have it ready for media purposes. Thank you
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 05:03 PM   #3858
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The UK has a unique problem. It is impossible to build a brand new road as nobody wants them, so I accept that peculiarly English problem as a given.

But as there is no spare capacity anywhere south of Dundee it is impossible to upgrade existing roads like the A14 or A34 as there is nowhere to send the traffic during the upgrade either. These upgrades should have been done 20-30 years ago ( around when Newbury was finally bypassed on the A34) but the only major new build job done reasonably well in the last 25 years was the A55 North Wales Expressway. Upgrading the M25 is a complete joke even though it started years ago.

All in all a mess, whether you do anything or not. If the existing roads crumble to pieces, thereby forcing an upgrade cycle, it will be equally messy. This is what threatens to happen to the A14 around Huntingdon. The end of the do nothing option is nigh....even though the government got a good 20 year run out of it.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 05:04 PM   #3859
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What do you think of a potential new highway Swindon-Oxford-Milton Keynes?
It needs to go via Aylesbury and 'end' at M1 J13, so it can be part of a Swindon - Cambridge route (Black Cat - Caxton still needing work).
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Whats wrong with finishing the A34 from Birmingham ( or M40 near Birmingham) to Southampton FIRST???

That 'job' is still under way 50 years after it started.
What's left to do? The two ends? Other than that, what is wrong with it. OK, Oxford is a bit of a bottleneck, but a Swindon - MK road would possibly be able to bypass that by creating an Oxford South Eastern bypass between the A34 near Abingdon or Didcot and M40 J8. Outside of that, it's really not bad.
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They don't do Highways in the UK, we call them motorways.
Nope.

Your wikipedia quote is right - Highway means road in common usage, but legally a right-of-way. Motorway is also a legal term meaning a Special Road (a public road which is not a Highway) that only allows Class I and II traffic.

I don't see the point of building it as a motorway. While objectors to the 1991 Wing Bypass did use the term 'motorway' for 6 months (and only those 6 months), the corridor wasn't proposed as such even under the late-80s/90s massive trunk road/motorway building plans. Something similar to the A421 between A1 and M1 is the right standard there. I guess if it's off-line new build you could make it a Special Road (and thus not a Highway), but I don't think it needs to be limited to Class I and II traffic (plus the HA don't have a clue what a non-motorway Special Road is, unlike Transport Scotland, NI Roads Service and Transport Wales).
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Old October 8th, 2014, 12:40 AM   #3860
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What do you think of a potential new highway Swindon-Oxford-Milton Keynes?
I just did a Google search and found a Hansard record of a reply in Parliament about when a feasibility study for this road will be complete

that was in 1976
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