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Old September 12th, 2016, 11:37 PM   #4301
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Manchester to Sheffield Trans-Pennine road tunnel routes shortlisted

Five routes have been shortlisted today, 18 August 2016, for the Trans-Pennine tunnel – the most ambitious road scheme undertaken in the UK in more than 5 decades.

The Trans-Pennine tunnel study was launched by the government in autumn 2015, one of a number of studies aimed at addressing some of the biggest challenges facing the road network in the UK. Today’s study shows the continued strong case for the tunnel which could provide safer, faster and more reliable journeys for motorists.

The tunnel between Manchester and Sheffield could be a national first and almost halve journey times between the 2 cities.

All 5 routes join the M60 east of Manchester to the M1 north of Sheffield, with 4 options starting at the M67, and will see journeys cut by 30 minutes.



The tunnel could provide an economic boost to the 2 cities as well as the surrounding area. The link would help protect the environment by reducing traffic through the Peak District National Park, as well as support the government’s plan to build a Northern Powerhouse.

The study is part of the government’s next phase of road improvements, which will get underway from 2020. The current Road Investment Strategy period covers 2015 to 2020.

In the final stage of the study, due to be completed by the end of 2016, the strategic and economic cases for each option will be assessed and cost estimates will be provided.
Full press release: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/m...es-shortlisted


They should just extend the M67 to meet the M1..
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Old September 16th, 2016, 01:48 PM   #4302
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They should just extend the M67 to meet the M1..
That's essentially what four of the five options would do (though they haven't confirmed the new road's number yet, of course).

If one of these options is taken forward it'll be interesting to see how they upgrade the woefully underpowered M60/M67 interchange at Denton.
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Old September 18th, 2016, 05:15 AM   #4303
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They should extend the M67 to the M1, but one thing is sure: It'll never be a motorway (neither (A) or M something).
(a dual carriageway is just as bad, but what can you do when you are facing well funded arguments, such as; "motorway sounds worse than a dual carriageway")

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Old September 18th, 2016, 12:51 PM   #4304
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They should extend the M67 to the M1, but one thing is sure: It'll never be a motorway (neither (A) or M something).
(a dual carriageway is just as bad, but what can you do when you are facing well funded arguments, such as; "motorway sounds worse than a dual carriageway")
Attitudes are changing in that respect. See, eg, the A1 East of England project I mentioned a few posts back, which is expressly exploring the possibility of a motorway upgrade, in SE England no less.
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Old October 4th, 2016, 11:58 AM   #4305
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Race starts for £1.3bn Stonehenge expressway



Highways England will soon start the hunt for an early contractor involvement partner on the proposed A303 Stonehenge expressway.

The ambitious project is expected to cost anywhere between £300m and £1.3bn depending on the final route selected.

Before starting the ECI contractor bid race, Highways England plans to hold a market engagement day in Bristol on 12 October to set out proposals for taking the vast expressway project forward.

An Atkins/Arup joint venture is presently working up development options to take to public consultation and inform the preferred route announcement.

A decision on the route will be taken next summer with a development consent order application due to be submitted in summer 2018 for an April 2020 start.

The expressway project will involve improvements to the A303 between Amesbury and Berwick Down in Wiltshire.

Subject to option approval, the project is likely to include construction of a twin-bored tunnel of at least 1.8 miles in length on the A303 as it passes Stonehenge, a bypass for Winterbourne Stoke and junctions with the A358 and the A360.

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http://www.constructionenquirer.com/...ge-expressway/
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Old October 17th, 2016, 07:34 PM   #4306
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The public consultation on the A30 Carland Cross to Chiverton scheme has opened. This will dual and grade separate 8.7 miles of substandard single carriageway in Cornwall, with construction to start in Spring 2020. The roundabouts with the A39 and A390 at either end of this section will be replaced with single-bridge GSJs:



The only intermediate junction will be a GSJ with west-facing slips only at Chybucca; there are also two route options for that section. For details see the consultation brochure and scheme plan.

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Old October 25th, 2016, 04:17 PM   #4307
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The government today approved Heathrow's plan for a new runway, including £830m for road improvements:



The M25 at Heathrow will be widened to 14 lanes (3+4+4+3) plus hard shoulders and go in a tunnel under the new runway:

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Old October 25th, 2016, 05:13 PM   #4308
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including £830m for road improvements
That £830m is the cost of rebuilding the M25 and A4 to build the runway on top of it (and taking the opportunity to do mediocre improvements) and some rejigging of the airport's access roads. Or rather, what Heathrow are willing to pay on that front (though they have no choice but to pay on their own roads).

The real cost of road building, in the highly unlikely scenario that the scheme meets environmental law, competition law, etc will be much much higher, with M4 widening, further M25 widening, upgrades to more local roads like the A30, A312, etc. TfL reckoned on a figure for cost to the taxpayer of about 100 times that £830m to supply the enlarged airport, and its hinterland, with the infrastructure needed to deal with the increase in stuff going on there.

Also, given what Heathrow sought to do with Crossrail (beyond getting out of paying a penny towards a scheme where making it easier to get to that airport is a key purpose of the scheme), watch out for tolling the M25 between J14 and J15. They might talk about 'Congestion Charge' or something, but it's their notions of building infrastructure to make it easier for people to get to the airport and then milking the customers/workers that use it for as much as they think they can get away with.
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The M25 at Heathrow will be widened to 14 lanes (3+4+4+3) plus hard shoulders and go in a tunnel under the new runway:
One lane more than now, with triple the airport traffic (which gets two lanes currently) using it...
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Old October 25th, 2016, 07:05 PM   #4309
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Indeed and I know that area very, very well, indeed I was born within the bounds of that map and I am far from convinced that it's ever going to happen.
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Old October 27th, 2016, 01:45 AM   #4310
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I have a question about the Newport Cable Transporter Bridge: are there concrete plans to replace it with some other fixed structure, tunnel or new bridge itself?
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Old October 27th, 2016, 02:29 AM   #4311
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It's grade I listed and the symbol of the city, so 'replaced' is very much the wrong word!

I'm not sure how many use it - there's not a huge amount the other side, and the A48 City Bridge serves that well enough.

A bridge or tunnel in the same location won't work - it needs to be high/deep and there's not enough space for approaches on the city side.

The M4 diversion will build a crossing downstream, but that will serve a different function.
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Old October 27th, 2016, 02:37 PM   #4312
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..... wrong thread

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Old October 27th, 2016, 02:38 PM   #4313
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See above.
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Old October 28th, 2016, 03:11 AM   #4314
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Where is the road into the new terminal ( the light blue strip between the new North Runway and the current north runway), or is that new terminal a T5 Satellite.

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It's a big terminal called Terminal 6 or Central Terminal as you can see here ( first terminal on left)


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Old October 28th, 2016, 05:38 AM   #4315
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Speaking of which:
How's the traffic volume between M4 (Heathrow Airport) and A350/A429 roadway?

Is it mostly a breeze and free-flowing? Or is it jam-packed?
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Old October 28th, 2016, 12:13 PM   #4316
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If there are no accidents, it is usually fine until you get towards Slough and the M25.

If this new runway and terminal go through, then the whole region will need an upgrade, especially the M4 spur and the perimeter road.
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Old October 28th, 2016, 12:19 PM   #4317
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http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ has traffic volume graphs for all A and M roads (data from the DfT presented in a more accessible way).

Traffic flows a lot better after Reading (drops from floating around the 120-150k range to about 80k), and the peak periods are the problem there.

There's widening roadworks between junctions 3 and 12 beginning in March (for 5 years!) so I'd say that jam-packed is an accurate description.

But jam-packed doesn't mean not-free-flowing. Jam-packed, but free-flowing, is a common occurance on British motorways.
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Old October 29th, 2016, 02:01 AM   #4318
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Are there plans to upgrade A1 in Northern Ireland to motorway standards?

There is a sector with a very strange alignment, some big-and-raised should that is supposed to act as frontage road, but with access to the main carriageway
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Old October 29th, 2016, 05:38 PM   #4319
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Northern Ireland doesn't really 'do' new motorways, so no.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 07:06 PM   #4320
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M25 Junction 28 improvement

Highways England have put forward their proposed improvement to M25 J28, which is the heavily congested three-level roundabout for the A12. The final arrangement will feature a freeflow loop similar to the M57/M62 Tarbock Island. The scheme is priced at £61m-£78m.






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