[GB] Motorways in the United Kingdom - Page 43

geogregor · October 27th, 2009, 03:13 AM

Interesting book about British motorways:

On Roads
A Hidden History

Author: Joe Moran

Published by Profile Books Ltd.

ISBN: 9781846680526

http://www.stanfords.co.uk/stock/on-...istory-178919/

I've gone through first 100 pages or so, and I think it's worth reading for any road geek

Maxx☢Power · October 29th, 2009, 02:20 PM

Found these on Flickr:

M1 Motorway 1959

image hosted on flickr

bleetz · October 30th, 2009, 08:39 PM

/\ Sweet.

Here's a picture of Dartford Toll from google maps:

Mateusz · October 30th, 2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxx☢Power

Found these on Flickr:

M1 Motorway 1959

image hosted on flickr

Europe could only dream back then

DanielFigFoz · October 31st, 2009, 12:46 AM

One thing that people in Europe don't get is that even though there aren't very many roads called motorways, there are loads of motorway standard roads that are just like motorways.

poshbakerloo · November 2nd, 2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielFigFoz

One thing that people in Europe don't get is that even though there aren't very many roads called motorways, there are loads of motorway standard roads that are just like motorways.

That is true. Near me there are several bypasses with 4-6 lanes all with 7-Mph speed limits and grade separated but none are M classed...

DanielFigFoz · November 2nd, 2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poshbakerloo

That is true. Near me there are several bypasses with 4-6 lanes all with 7-Mph speed limits and grade separated but none are M classed...

I remember a year ago or so some people were complaning about Norwich not having a motorway connextion but they don't understand that many roads around Norwich are = to mortorways.

ardmacha · November 2nd, 2009, 10:49 PM

Why don't they just call them motorways then?

bleetz · November 3rd, 2009, 12:41 AM

Because then a lot of traffic would not be able to use those roads. A good example where a road could be a motorway but isn't is the Darford crossing on the M25. It is built to the same standard as the rest of the M25 but is left as an "A" road for traffic that can not use motorways.

poshbakerloo · November 3rd, 2009, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleetz

You change your mind often

nooooo I mean I think its good we don't just use KM...either both or just miles...

flierfy · November 3rd, 2009, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielFigFoz

One thing that people in Europe don't get is that even though there aren't very many roads called motorways, there are loads of motorway standard roads that are just like motorways.

The main principle of motorways is to exclude certain kind of vehicles. British all-purpose roads are just not up to this standard. No matter how wide they are.

Stainless · November 3rd, 2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardmacha

Why don't they just call them motorways then?

Motorways have to have hard shoulders and emergency phones, also the curves cannot be too tight so you can safely do 70mph in normal conditions, exceptions do happen like many motorways that pass through busy areas have sections without shoulders and lower speed limits, but this is always warned about a lot. Another consideration is the distance between junctions which can be quite short on almost motorway standard roads.

DanielFigFoz · November 3rd, 2009, 09:49 PM

Alot of these roads have that. Although the length between junctions is true.

Mateusz · November 4th, 2009, 12:40 PM

I don't see a governemnt option in the UK which would take 1960s style approach to road construction, expansion. UK is destinated for endlesss invesments in rail and developing green policies

da_scotty · November 4th, 2009, 04:03 PM

Is there any news about the A9 widening.. When I lived in scotland there was the plan for 2*3 around Perth, and 2*2 to inverness

geogregor · November 4th, 2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_scotty

Is there any news about the A9 widening.. When I lived in scotland there was the plan for 2*3 around Perth, and 2*2 to inverness

Well, one of the most important projects in Scotland at the moment should be Aberdeen bypass.
What is the latest status at the moment?

DanielFigFoz · November 7th, 2009, 08:11 PM

Sorry about the bad quality, they were taken from the back seat

EDIT: Sorry, having problems with the pictures. You shoul dbe able to see them soon, I am busy reloading them on to youtube, where I will make a video witht them (like a slidshow) and put it here

The Lambton Worm · November 14th, 2009, 06:49 PM

I know its not a motorway sign but in case this hasn't already been posted, I wonder what some of our European cousins would make of this sign

BTW, what are 'expressways'?

Mateusz · November 14th, 2009, 07:33 PM

Motorway-like roads but with lower speed limits and sharper curves etc.

piotr71 · November 14th, 2009, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lambton Worm

I know its not a motorway sign but in case this hasn't already been posted, I wonder what some of our European cousins would make of this sign

BTW, what are 'expressways'?

There is one like that in Hemel Heampsted. I felt quite lost and confused when drove for the first time on it.

October 27th, 2009, 03:13 AM	#841
geogregor Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jastrzebie(PL)Wroclaw(PL)London(UK) Posts: 5,499 Likes (Received): 34	Interesting book about British motorways: On Roads A Hidden History Author: Joe Moran Published by Profile Books Ltd. ISBN: 9781846680526 http://www.stanfords.co.uk/stock/on-...istory-178919/ I've gone through first 100 pages or so, and I think it's worth reading for any road geek Last edited by geogregor; October 27th, 2009 at 03:24 AM.

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bleetz one.man.army Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 703 Likes (Received): 57	Because then a lot of traffic would not be able to use those roads. A good example where a road could be a motorway but isn't is the Darford crossing on the M25. It is built to the same standard as the rest of the M25 but is left as an "A" road for traffic that can not use motorways. __________________ This "potion" that turns you from Dr Jekyll into Mr Hyde looks an awful lot like six cans of Stella.

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da_scotty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oss/Delft Posts: 940 Likes (Received): 13	Is there any news about the A9 widening.. When I lived in scotland there was the plan for 23 around Perth, and 22 to inverness __________________ Student of the Faculty of Technology Policy and Management at the Delft University of Technology.

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DanielFigFoz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Figueira da Foz / London Posts: 3,822 Likes (Received): 108	Sorry about the bad quality, they were taken from the back seat EDIT: Sorry, having problems with the pictures. You shoul dbe able to see them soon, I am busy reloading them on to youtube, where I will make a video witht them (like a slidshow) and put it here Last edited by DanielFigFoz; November 7th, 2009 at 08:48 PM.

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October 29th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#842
Maxx☢Power BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 387 Likes (Received): 0	Found these on Flickr: M1 Motorway 1959 image hosted on flickr

October 30th, 2009, 08:39 PM	#843
bleetz one.man.army Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 703 Likes (Received): 57	/\ Sweet. Here's a picture of Dartford Toll from google maps:

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DanielFigFoz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Figueira da Foz / London Posts: 3,822 Likes (Received): 108	One thing that people in Europe don't get is that even though there aren't very many roads called motorways, there are loads of motorway standard roads that are just like motorways.

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ardmacha Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 112 Likes (Received): 0	Why don't they just call them motorways then?

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DanielFigFoz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Figueira da Foz / London Posts: 3,822 Likes (Received): 108	Alot of these roads have that. Although the length between junctions is true.

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Mateusz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 6,443 Likes (Received): 5	I don't see a governemnt option in the UK which would take 1960s style approach to road construction, expansion. UK is destinated for endlesss invesments in rail and developing green policies

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The Lambton Worm Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sunderland Posts: 20 Likes (Received): 0	I know its not a motorway sign but in case this hasn't already been posted, I wonder what some of our European cousins would make of this sign BTW, what are 'expressways'?

November 14th, 2009, 07:33 PM	#859
Mateusz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 6,443 Likes (Received): 5	Motorway-like roads but with lower speed limits and sharper curves etc.