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Old May 30th, 2010, 06:11 AM   #1141
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Yea that is a big problem here, people don't know the meaning of the passing lane.
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Old May 30th, 2010, 07:32 PM   #1142
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It's illegal to overtake on the left in Britain right? Like how it's illegal to overtake on the right in Germany?
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Old May 30th, 2010, 09:58 PM   #1143
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It's illegal to overtake on the left in Britain right? Like how it's illegal to overtake on the right in Germany?
Yes that's right, which is why we kick up a fuss when Motorways like the M8 have right-hand slip roads because it mucks up the lane system.

The idea is for every driver to use the slow (left) lane, and then use the middle lane to overtake slow lane drivers, and the fast lane to overtake middle lane drivers if necessary. Every driver should eventually fall back to the slow lane until they need to overtake again. We get people driving constantly in the middle and fast lanes, both are a pain.
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Old May 30th, 2010, 10:00 PM   #1144
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Correct me if I'm wrong but from personal experience, in the USA the rule of a 'passing lane(s) to the left (or right in the UK etc) varies from state to state. I've seen signs indicating this in the North-East, but only occasionally. A bit like the right on red rule, which varies, again with its prohibition very common in the North-East.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 02:43 AM   #1145
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Correct me if I'm wrong but from personal experience, in the USA the rule of a 'passing lane(s) to the left (or right in the UK etc) varies from state to state. I've seen signs indicating this in the North-East, but only occasionally. A bit like the right on red rule, which varies, again with its prohibition very common in the North-East.
That's very true. It does vary from state to state. In some states, you can cruise in the left (passing) lane as long as you are not impeding traffic. In others, like Kansas, cruising in the passing lane is strictly prohibited.

Then you have states like Washington that say keep right except to pass, but no one does it and the cops don't care .
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Old June 1st, 2010, 07:01 PM   #1146
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Let me show you some pictures of one of the biggest road's construction in Southern England. Hindhead tunnel.

Location. Purple line indicates new dual carriageway bypassing/underpassing Hindhead. Red marks show approximate tunnel's length.



More exact map:



Some words of explanation what is what:




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Old June 1st, 2010, 07:33 PM   #1147
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I drove there at Sunday, so the road was pretty clear. However, traveling through this small village in midweek can take somewhat from 20 to 60 minutes. Opening the tunnel will significantly shorten a trip from Portsmouth to London. I suppose, passing Hindhead will take no more than 5 mins.

We are approaching the tunnel:


About one mile before Hindhead.




Quick look to the South.


Horses' subway.







Far to the North, Hazel Grove junction can be seen.

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Old June 1st, 2010, 07:49 PM   #1148
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Somwhere between Hazel Grove and Miss James footbridge:







Miss James footbridge itself:







And the tunnel at last:










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Old June 2nd, 2010, 03:06 PM   #1149
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^I like the A5 after Shrewsbury, up to Oswestry. When I'm going home from Cardiff to North Wales I look forward to that bit, it's fast and wide with plenty of places to overtake, as well as the new bypass section. It's great after the horrible, slow A49 along the borders.
Yes, the shrewsbury to oswestry section is mostly pretty good although there are a couple of narrow parts and poor junctions which could be improved. The A458 up there is good too.

The A49 is one of the most frustrating roads I know, sitting behind a truck at 40mph from hereford to shrewsbury with very little chance to overtake is not fun.

There is some nice scenery though!
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 02:36 AM   #1150
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Let me show you some pictures of one of the biggest road's construction in Southern England. Hindhead tunnel.

Location. Purple line indicates new dual carriageway bypassing/underpassing Hindhead. Red marks show approximate tunnel's length.



More exact map:



Some words of explanation what is what:



Canadian? Canadian what?
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 02:52 AM   #1151
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^Canadian Memorial Underpass. It says on the sign...
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 02:54 PM   #1152
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Thanks a lot, piotr71. That A3 construction is music to my eyes. It was really needed! Next step = A3(M) all the way to London! (I wish )
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Old June 12th, 2010, 11:28 PM   #1153
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Old June 13th, 2010, 02:01 PM   #1154
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I'd like larger, CLEARer signage....like in the USA
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Old June 13th, 2010, 11:05 PM   #1155
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I've never had a problem with UK signage. It seems mostly fine to me.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 12:18 AM   #1156
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I've never had a problem with UK signage. It seems mostly fine to me.
Most people say that about the signage in their own country. It's more interesting what outsiders think of signage in my opinion.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 02:57 AM   #1157
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One thing I've noticed from the recent images of Google Street View is that the UK appears to have started "numbering" some of the junctions on it's trunk roads, as if they were motorways, as shown here on the A14 trunk road:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie...63.86,,2,-4.45

This must have been implemented fairly recently, i.e. over the last 7 years, as I do not remember it from when I lived in England (and I drove on the A14 a few times). The same seems to be the case with the A12 trunk road from the M25 to Ipswich (this stretch of road is pretty much motorway standard anyway). However, I can't find any other examples on other near-motorway trunk roads.

As for the comment on signage, I find the UK's signage to be pretty clear and easy to read, although many of the overhead gantries used are kind of ugly.

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The A50 has junction numbering too (the famous route to Alton Towers!):

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie...300.04,,1,2.84

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Old June 14th, 2010, 12:09 PM   #1158
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(As a native) I have no problem at all with font/font sizes etc on UK signage. All seems very clear to me. However, I think there is a problem with consistency. When properly laid out, signage appears clear and easy to follow, but too often signs are erected with poorly laid out presentation when rules are not adhered to. There does not appear to be a strong culture of proof reading British signage, and this needs to improve.

The other area that I would prefer to see change is notifcation of longer distance destinations. Cities will usually not appear as destinations on road signs until less than one hour before you reach them. On a journey from Glasgow to Manchester, for example, you will only see Manchester signed 30 mins or so before you get there, which is odd. I think we could learn a few lessons from other countries in improving signage in this respect.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 04:05 PM   #1159
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I particularly can't see much difference between UK signage and signage in the other EU countries. It's easy to read.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 08:05 PM   #1160
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