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Old July 3rd, 2010, 05:32 PM   #1221
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 08:37 PM   #1222
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Amazing!
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Old July 7th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #1223
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And great volumes of traffic there as well
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Old July 9th, 2010, 08:06 PM   #1224
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Old July 9th, 2010, 08:34 PM   #1225
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M74 in Glasgow, possibly the last urban motorway ever built in this country ?

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Old July 9th, 2010, 11:24 PM   #1226
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Old July 10th, 2010, 11:41 AM   #1227
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What shame...uk motorways are the best in europe in terms of designing but with horrible concrete asphalt and jammed all the time, while i was in london M25 was jammed all the day and the worst thing is the tolls at dartford crossing that makes it even more annoying making the traffic worse... I have to say even the dutch have better motorway network with less jams
The M25 is not typical of most UK motorways.
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Old July 10th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #1228
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M74 in Glasgow, possible the last urban motorway ever built in this country ?
That is very likely
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Old July 11th, 2010, 12:34 AM   #1229
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The 'M32(M) (at about 1:50) is a road I was previously unaware of!
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Old July 11th, 2010, 02:57 AM   #1230
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M74 in Glasgow, possibly the last urban motorway ever built in this country ?
That could be true. I wouldn't know where to fit in any large roads anyway, they take up loads of space!
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Old July 12th, 2010, 09:45 PM   #1231
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Old July 14th, 2010, 02:49 PM   #1232
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The 'M32(M) (at about 1:50) is a road I was previously unaware of!
I think he meant the A38(M) which connects the M6 to the centre of Birmingham via Spaghetti Junction.

On a separate, though related, note; the A38(M) has no central reservation. Instead traffic lane flow is controlled by signs on the overhead gantries. Apparently it works quite well (no collisions). As far as I know it is the only road in Britain with this arrangement but, just out of interest, are there roads anywhere else in the world that do that?
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Old July 14th, 2010, 03:06 PM   #1233
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On a separate, though related, note; the A38(M) has no central reservation. Instead traffic lane flow is controlled by signs on the overhead gantries. Apparently it works quite well (no collisions). As far as I know it is the only road in Britain with this arrangement but, just out of interest, are there roads anywhere else in the world that do that?
Yes, for example the A49 bridge in Sevilla across the Rio Guadalquivir, the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, and the Avinguda Diagonal in Barcelona.
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Old July 14th, 2010, 07:53 PM   #1234
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The A38M is special though because it the only motorway with no central reservation and a tidal flow system. None of the roads Chris listed are motorways or freeways (I don't think). Tidal flow roads like that aren't too uncommon in the UK, we have one in Cardiff (North Road from Maindy to the University is three lanes with the centre lane changing direction around 2pm from towards the city centre to away). It works pretty well.

http://goo.gl/maps/e3tG
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http://goo.gl/maps/nqRi
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Old July 14th, 2010, 08:44 PM   #1235
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Yes, for example the A49 bridge in Sevilla across the Rio Guadalquivir, the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, and the Avinguda Diagonal in Barcelona.
And at least some Delaware River Port Authority bridges: the Benjamin Franklin and Walt Whitman bridges (Philadelphia to New Jersey). I think it's also true of the Commodore Barry Bridge (DRPA again, but a bit south of Philadelphia) and I suspect the Betsy Ross Bridge (which I don't know that I've ever been on, because it doesn't do much that's useful at the New Jersey end). There are variable signs: reading "X Lanes to N.J." (or "to Phila."), with the number that's appropriate at the moment being lit up where the X is. Don't ask me how the lanes are marked - I'm sort of visualizing dashed double yellow on both sides of the lanes that vary. And they may put down cones, which is something that they'd have to do in the middle of the day when traffic is light and they can close a lane to play with it....

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Found a picture: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/28898708
No idea if they actually move that divider twice a day....
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Old July 15th, 2010, 11:51 PM   #1236
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The A470 in Cardiff



The whole article;

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/photo/a470/

is a very interesting read.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 06:23 PM   #1237
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The A38M is special though because it the only motorway with no central reservation and a tidal flow system. None of the roads Chris listed are motorways or freeways (I don't think). Tidal flow roads like that aren't too uncommon in the UK, we have one in Cardiff (North Road from Maindy to the University is three lanes with the centre lane changing direction around 2pm from towards the city centre to away). It works pretty well.

http://goo.gl/maps/e3tG
http://goo.gl/maps/zMvE
http://goo.gl/maps/nqRi
It is a very odd setup, there is always one empty lane to separate the traffic which is usually evenly divided. However the centre lane has a drainage channel meaning that motorcycle are not allowed in it. Also as a pointless piece of trivia, it used to have a pipe going across it carrying vinegar, which once leaked and ruined the paint on a few cars.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 02:50 AM   #1238
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This is what I was talking about in my earlier post. This gantry has way too much information given the size of the signs. Do you UK natives agree or disagree?
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Old July 17th, 2010, 03:51 AM   #1239
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I don't really agree, I can still read it all. It's a bit cluttered but we live in a densely populated island, so lots of towns to point out.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 04:08 AM   #1240
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What's the little yellow-and-black thing next to "Warrington" on the sign in ttownfeen's post (from Porto's post)?
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