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Old July 17th, 2010, 07:06 AM   #1241
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Old July 18th, 2010, 12:04 AM   #1242
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This is what I was talking about in my earlier post. This gantry has way too much information given the size of the signs. Do you UK natives agree or disagree?
I find it perfectly acceptable. And even if it had too much information, it's better too much than little information.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 03:27 PM   #1243
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I raised this previously. Here's the deal - UK signage in general is excellent. BUT on motorways (particularly at major junctions) as ttownfeen said, the gantry has too much information on it - given its size.

Yes - its readable. But it could be much clearer if destinations were not squeezed together (often with commas separating them) and simply if the signs were LARGER with bigger font sizes making the signs visible from further back - particularly important on high speed roads.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 03:34 PM   #1244
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I think most foreigners only base their opinion about British signage on the gantries, which are indeed not the best feature in the United Kingdom. It would help if they would put destinations above each other, not next to each other. France does this as well, but it only works with short names (Metz - Nancy). I also think that the road numbers in plain text (if not combined with brackets) add to the gantry problem. It feels like reading a sentence.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 03:42 PM   #1245
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As far as I know it is the only road in Britain with this arrangement but, just out of interest, are there roads anywhere else in the world that do that?
There's also the Aston Expressway in Birmingham..I'd upload a photo froom google sreetview but I'm clueless how to
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Old July 18th, 2010, 05:15 PM   #1246
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I think most foreigners only base their opinion about British signage on the gantries, which are indeed not the best feature in the United Kingdom. It would help if they would put destinations above each other, not next to each other. France does this as well, but it only works with short names (Metz - Nancy). I also think that the road numbers in plain text (if not combined with brackets) add to the gantry problem. It feels like reading a sentence.
But if they didn't mentioned certain places people would complain there was little information in the signage. It's always damn if you do, damn if you don't.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 06:09 PM   #1247
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Old July 18th, 2010, 10:08 PM   #1248
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Old July 19th, 2010, 03:37 AM   #1249
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WEBUYANYCAR.COM!!! OMG that is so annoying, did you plant that there deliberately? What shit commercial radio station are you listening to anyway?
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Old July 19th, 2010, 06:35 AM   #1250
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The M5 is pretty scenic, especially as it passes close to Malvern and Worcester.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 07:33 PM   #1251
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There's also the Aston Expressway in Birmingham..I'd upload a photo froom google sreetview but I'm clueless how to
The A38(M) is the Aston Expressway.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 07:37 PM   #1252
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This is what I was talking about in my earlier post. This gantry has way too much information given the size of the signs. Do you UK natives agree or disagree?
I think its fine. Motorways are wide and quite straight for much of the route so you can see the signs from a distance...
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Old July 20th, 2010, 01:56 AM   #1253
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I also noticed people in the UK don't drive so fast as in Germany for example, maybe because of traffic volumes I haven't seen people going faster than 90-100 MPH
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Old July 20th, 2010, 02:27 AM   #1254
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I also noticed people in the UK don't drive so fast as in Germany for example, maybe because of traffic volumes I haven't seen people going faster than 90-100 MPH
Well, maybe because there is 70mph speed limit on UK motorways.
Lot of people drive 80-90mph but higher speed can get you into trouble
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Old July 20th, 2010, 06:09 AM   #1255
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Well, maybe because there is 70mph speed limit on UK motorways.
Lot of people drive 80-90mph but higher speed can get you into trouble
I regularly did +120mph on (empty) motorways and never got in trouble with the law.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 11:04 AM   #1256
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They probably couldn't catch you!

The 70 mph speed limit is a great example of a rule that gets broken in practice, but still serves a useful purpose so is left as it is. I know that if I pass a police car at 75 mph, he won't give me a second look. At 80 mph, he'll give me a hard stare and at 85 mph I could be in trouble. As a result, I usually stick to 80 mph, sometimes less. People who are calling for the limit to be raised to 80 mph are missing the point a little. If it ain't broke (and it isn't) don't fix it.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 11:11 AM   #1257
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Britain is slightly weird with speed limits. It's non-urban and truck limits are among the highest of Europe, but the motorway limits are among the lowest in Europe. Denmark recently went from 70 to 80 miles per hour, maybe the UK can follow
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Old July 20th, 2010, 11:13 AM   #1258
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A speed limit is working when most people are ready to follow it. When we were driving on the A4 in Italy, we were usually going at 125-130 km/h (by GPS) and very few cars overtook us. That's better than having a speed limit of 110km/h and most people driving +15km/h.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 05:32 PM   #1259
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Britain is slightly weird with speed limits. It's non-urban and truck limits are among the highest of Europe, but the motorway limits are among the lowest in Europe. Denmark recently went from 70 to 80 miles per hour, maybe the UK can follow
Perhaps, but it wouldn't be for safety reasons as the UK has an excellent safety record. If it would increase capacity, then that would be a good reason I guess.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 05:35 PM   #1260
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Actually the fatality rate on the Danish motorvej went down after they increased the speed limit.
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