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Old July 22nd, 2010, 09:25 PM   #1281
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Didn't napoleon change most of continental Europe to the right? I'm not sure what the reasoning behind the change was though.
Yes and Nazi Germany also changed over a lot of countries it invaded.
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 09:40 PM   #1282
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Yes and Nazi Germany also changed over a lot of countries it invaded.
I thought so.

Driving on the right = fascism, hate and evil

Driving on the left = democracy, freedom and love

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Old July 23rd, 2010, 12:09 AM   #1283
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No, no no! You don't want to steer too far right, that would be fascist. Too far left would be communist. Best stay somewhere in the middle. And avoid oncoming traffic.
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 12:50 AM   #1284
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Wikipedia, true to form, has an article on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_...t-hand_traffic

If they're right, the change in the US has something to do with the driver of wagons pulled by teams of horses sitting on the left so he could use his right hand for the whip, in which case it made sense to pass oncoming wagons on the left so you could see that your wheels weren't coming into conflict with them.
I know exactly the same explanation.
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 12:59 AM   #1285
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So the driving side is now an indicator of the political position of countries?
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 05:57 PM   #1286
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M90 - Junction 11


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Old July 25th, 2010, 03:58 AM   #1287
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They probably couldn't catch you!

The 70 mph speed limit is a great example of a rule that gets broken in practice, but still serves a useful purpose so is left as it is. I know that if I pass a police car at 75 mph, he won't give me a second look. At 80 mph, he'll give me a hard stare and at 85 mph I could be in trouble. As a result, I usually stick to 80 mph, sometimes less. People who are calling for the limit to be raised to 80 mph are missing the point a little. If it ain't broke (and it isn't) don't fix it.
In Australia you will get fined by a Police officer for doing a few km's over the limit even on a Motorway. It just causes frustration as you get many motorists doing well under the advertised speed limit in fear of being fined, plus they're constantly looking at their speedometers.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 03:51 PM   #1288
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In Australia you will get fined by a Police officer for doing a few km's over the limit even on a Motorway. It just causes frustration as you get many motorists doing well under the advertised speed limit in fear of being fined, plus they're constantly looking at their speedometers.
People should be careful of course but it's really annoying when Police goes extreme over speed limits. From what I see, police officers are not exactly the most careful drivers on the planet.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 07:10 PM   #1289
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Old July 25th, 2010, 11:43 PM   #1290
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I believe that that is that motorway in Scotland with long sections without and hard-shoulder.
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Old July 26th, 2010, 01:51 AM   #1291
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I believe that that is that motorway in Scotland with long sections without and hard-shoulder.
Yes, and if when it exists, it's rather small. And btw the M90 is the most northerly motorway in Britain.
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Old July 27th, 2010, 01:31 AM   #1292
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Old July 29th, 2010, 12:52 AM   #1293
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What is the next motorway opening in the UK?
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Old July 29th, 2010, 12:58 PM   #1294
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M80 or M74 completion. A1(M) Dishforth - Leeming is the only other scheme being built (obviously there's widening and ATM works) at the moment.
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Old July 29th, 2010, 07:09 PM   #1295
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I thought so.

Driving on the right = fascism, hate and evil

Driving on the left = democracy, freedom and love

I beg to differ!
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Old July 29th, 2010, 07:16 PM   #1296
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I beg to differ!
You have been brainwashed by the right-driving fascists, at least American Samoa has seen the light and broken free of tyranny.
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Old July 29th, 2010, 07:53 PM   #1297
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I thought so.

Driving on the right = fascism, hate and evil

Driving on the left = democracy, freedom and love

No. For me, driving on the right means democracy and union of all people, and driving on the left means fascism and jackasses, besides that hurts my eyes!

But I think that British will change distances from miles to km and speed limits from mph to km/h (They have already kmposts) soon...
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Old July 29th, 2010, 08:24 PM   #1298
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No. For me, driving on the right means democracy and union of all people, and driving on the left means fascism and jackasses, besides that hurts my eyes!

But I think that British will change distances from miles to km and speed limits from mph to km/h (They have already kmposts) soon...
The Indian and Samoan people have told me they are very offended by you slandering them as jackasses.

I can see us maybe changing to kms in my lifetime (though I have never seen a km signage in the UK ) but we will never drive on the right, our hard-won liberties are too important for that.

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Old July 29th, 2010, 08:51 PM   #1299
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Switching to the right is a waste of money, especially these days. It made sense for example in Sweden in 1967 when traffic was still relatively limited. It would also make sense if neighbouring countries would drive on the right, but this is not the case with the United Kingdom, which is a group of islands.
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Old July 29th, 2010, 10:00 PM   #1300
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Switching to the right would cost something in the order of half the national debt - Sweden had it much easier (ditto Samoa), due to being smaller and having less developed road networks. It's not only moving signs, but changing sight lines, junction geometry and such like - fine with a network which doesn't have many grade-separated junctions.

Anyway, I think Jonesy was being sarcastic and some of you guys have taken it too seriously.

As for metrication, highly unlikely - the benefits outweigh the costs - things like height and weight limits where there might be damage to the road network/vehicles is dual-units anyway.

We have the metric debate every few months on SABRE and the only people for it are those who are basically metric fundamentalists - religiously devoted to getting rid of customary measurements because they massively challenge their world-view (they don't fit with the scientific, global, modern community - they are great heresy!). There are only a handful of people on there (say 1 or 2) who are ideologically opposed to metrication, but most people are apathetic or see it purely as too expensive for the gain that will come about. There's next to no political capital and if it really was going to be done, it would have been done given we've been metricating for 40 years now!
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