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Old August 17th, 2010, 02:48 PM   #1401
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A little advice would be appreciated if anyone can help. I have a 450 mile drive to the west of Scotland this weekend from N Hampshire to visit family. The two routes I use most often are:
  • M3-M25-M40-M42-M6-M74 etc.; and
  • M3-M25-M1-M18-A1(M)-A66-M6-M74 etc.
I prefer the latter route usually, mainly because it avoids the southern section of the M6. But does anyone know of any major road works taking place on either route? The main works I can think of is the widening of the M1 through the East Midlands, but I am not sure whether this will have been completed by now.

Thanks in advance.
Just a thought, but why not try M3-M25-M1-M18-A1(M)-A1-A69-M6-M74? Obviously if there's roadworks at Scotch Corner you'll use the other route as you've previously said.

The A1 section (known locally as the Western Bypass) can be problematic during rush hour but otherwise its OK. Different route, different scenery.
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Old August 17th, 2010, 07:43 PM   #1402
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M27 and spurs.

I would like to show you some images of most important motorway on South coast of England. M27 actually connects two major cities in Hampshire, Portsmouth and Southampton to each other, and roughly, farther down to the West with Poole and Bournemouth conurbation and with Brighton to the East. However, actual length is 40 miles and starts in Cadnam ending on junctions 12 in Portsmouth.

Mixing some older and newer pics we'll go from Portsmouth to Cadnam then, handing only fresh pictures, we'll make kind of u-turn finally end up in Portsmouth again.



On the beginning a brief preview of the road from J12 to J1. We are starting on M275. Probably you can see some issues with the gantries on the images below.
This is what CBRD have to say about it:
Being stuck out on a peninsula means Portsmouth has an unusual destination on its road signs - "Out of City". Those signs will point you to the M275, a fine piece of road built on land reclaimed from the harbour that connects straight on to the national motorway network. Despite being semi-rural, it's still maintained by Portsmouth City Council. The signage refurbishment they carried out in 2005 is a disgrace. These signs are, without doubt, the most inept of the lot.
More: http://www.cbrd.co.uk/indepth/urbanmwaysigns/go to section Portsmouth

J12






















Junction 9. It's really interesting exit, so will stop here for a sec on the way back.

J8

J7



J6...ekhm...does not exist

J5


J4




J3 Here we have roundabout junction with M 271. CBRD would add some bitter words about it, as well.
http://pathetic.org.ukhttp://patheti.../current/m271/
newer pics








We turn left to Southampton. Older images

M271 itself:






A section on this picture has been repaved recently.


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In the next post we'll drive on M271 North.
So, we take right turn:
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Old August 17th, 2010, 08:01 PM   #1403
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In google maps Northern bit of M271 is not even signed as motorway.













Turn around. Motorway starts here:








Approaching junction 3 on M27





Still on motorway





M27 again.
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Old August 17th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #1404
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Thanks for the pictures

Do you see concrete a lot in the United Kingdom?
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Old August 17th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #1405
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In google maps Northern bit of M271 is not even signed as motorway.
Google maps is appalling when it comes to having the right colours for roads - they mark all sorts of bits of road wrongly. It's pretty amazing that they gave the UK&RoI blue/green roads, rather than just the orange-yellow-white scale used everywhere else.
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Old August 17th, 2010, 08:15 PM   #1406
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Well, it's time to come back.
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Old August 17th, 2010, 09:09 PM   #1407
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Do you see concrete a lot in the United Kingdom?
Yes, I do. As far as I remember almost every motorway I have driven on have some stretches covered with concrete. Mainly it is old, remembering times of construction, concrete surface. M25 has it, more or less from J9 to J12, from J24 to J25 and on Easternmost part of it too. However, on M25 new concrete can be seen. It' laid somewhere between M40 and M1, where fourth lane has been added recently. I have some night pictures of it, so will post them one day.

M3, M11, M42, M6 also have concrete on some stretches. Probably M4 does not have any on whole its length, though I drove there long enough ago to forget

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Old August 17th, 2010, 09:45 PM   #1408
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Let's continue. Weirdly, in a maze of roads in New Forest I'd lost the way to J1 on M27, so started return trip on J2.

We are on A36 approaching junction 2:







































This part of M27 was widened about 1 year ago. My sat-nav still warns me about average speed limit cameras which had been installed here during widening works.





German tourists in blue, old, good Transporter.






Time for a cup of coffee.


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Old August 17th, 2010, 10:33 PM   #1409
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Old August 18th, 2010, 12:20 AM   #1410
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So, because it's raining and we are by the junction 9 it's time to mention what is so interesting here.
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"M27 J9 on M27- J9 was to have been for a later service area, with unusually long access road. Ghost slips also visible. The mile long access road now connects to local roads making a junction 9.
Slip roads to/from unbuilt services can be seen clearly here:




Look at the other side of the motorway:


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Old August 18th, 2010, 12:51 AM   #1411
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I changed the weather with a magic wand, so we can carry on.







Thi is an entrance from J10 which hasn't got exit on Northern carriageway.


























We are on M275.






















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Old August 18th, 2010, 01:17 AM   #1412
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Almost finished. Just time for a bonus.

New Forest's roads, cars, horses and swans. Swans, you know











There is 40 miles speed limit applied On most roads in here.





Spoilt lanscape:












A nicely trimmed tree by horses.














Thank you for watching

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Old August 18th, 2010, 01:49 AM   #1413
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Great pics Piotr. Of course, the M27 should run from Dover to Plymouth and be England's true "South Coast Motorway".
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Old August 18th, 2010, 02:18 AM   #1414
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Thanks for the report, Piotr. I have been on those roads and I'm aware of the situation (especially A27 ).

Btw, can anyone explain what the hell is up with M271? Am I stupid or those who planned/built it are?
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Old August 18th, 2010, 11:04 AM   #1415
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Do you see concrete a lot in the United Kingdom?
The M54 is mostly concrete, the worst concrete surface I've been on is probably the M11.

Don't recall seeing any concrete on the M5, M6, M42, M56, M60, M40 but I could be wrong.
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Old August 18th, 2010, 12:26 PM   #1416
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M20 from junction 8 to 9 is also concreted.
I'd dare to say M6 nearby Stoke has some miles of concrete.
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I am not sure. Maybe it has something to do with Southampton city guild. Generally, streets within this city does not make good impression comparing to almost pristine ones in Portsmouth. As you know, M27 includes two motorways' spurs, one is M275 connecting Portsmouth with the rest of the world, which, in matter of surface is excellent, and the other, M271...let's better not to mention its quality

Probably British forumers would have more to say who is responsible for motorways' maintenance within city borders.
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Ah, possibly, I don't often use the section around Stoke.
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Old August 18th, 2010, 07:00 PM   #1418
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Thanks for the photos, piotr. M27 between Southampton and Portsmouth is one of "my" sections. The number of times I drove on that road. Even today I drove on that particular section twice

The road is generally good, but its adequacy can be questioned. Westbound M27 gets completely clogged before the junction with A335 every single morning (no exceptions). The traffic jam disappears right after A335 though. I add an extra half an hour every time I travel on that road and usually works out fine.

I also like how they added a fourth lane before the hill (that applies to both eastbound and westbound), as below:



The lane disappears once you are on the hill.
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Old August 18th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #1419
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Thanks for the pictures.

Obvioulsy some need an upgrade but it's also needed to praise the ones which are really smooth.
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What is the point of a concrete surface over normal asphalt?
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