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Old August 25th, 2010, 01:53 AM   #1441
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As I said old concrete joints still are visible.














Almost Chichester.




Signs direct to a place called Bosham. There is nothing special about that village except one thing. Locals pronounce name Bosham not in typical way like inhabitants of neighbouring Cosham do, but they say bozzom.





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Old August 25th, 2010, 02:01 AM   #1442
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Next roundabout ahead.






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Old August 25th, 2010, 02:02 AM   #1443
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Until Chichester, this road is close to motorway standard apart from some details. What distinguish it from proper motorway? It's not hard to find out watching this short report.
After the A3(M) in Havant, hard shoulders (though there's none on the far eastern end of the M27). Before Havant, supposedly the hard shoulders and/or alternative route (depending on which engineer you speak to) aren't up to scratch for full D3M/D4M cross-section (or "motorway standards" if you want to use that inaccurate term). The real reason is that making it into a motorway would cost too much for the consultation, signage and legal stuff for the paltry benefit that motorway status for it brings.

For the whole thing, secondary legislation - ie a Special Road Order and other such things. The A27 here a right of way (quite why it opened as such beats me - it's all new build and part was built exactly to the motorway plans) - anyone can use it (peds, cyclists, horses, learners, mobility scooters), unless banned by some secondary legislation (TRO, IIRC), rather than Motorways/Special Roads, which no one can use unless given permission for that class of road user to use the road.

As I've said recently on here, Motorway is a very specific legal term. It requires the right paperwork, rather than the right standards.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 11:54 AM   #1444
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Pretty much the entire northern section, plus a significant portion of the eastern section, and a section of the southern section until M23. I'd say the majority of M25 is only 2x3 lanes.
I am fairly sure I heard recently that plans are already in place to add a 4th lane to the entire remaining 3 lane section of the M25. When this is complete (and I'm not sure when this would be complete by), the M25 would consist of 4 lanes for approx 105 miles, 5 lanes for 6 miles and 6 lanes for 2 miles...so the almost all 4 lanes with the exception of the very wide section between the M3 and M4 interchanges.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 12:29 PM   #1445
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Next set from A27:



















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Old August 25th, 2010, 02:57 PM   #1446
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It's a shame that the M27 isn't much much much longer.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 02:59 PM   #1447
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Last set and map.

















Chichester by-pass aerial map:



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Old August 25th, 2010, 03:46 PM   #1448
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I promised to post some night's pictures of M25. They do not show any quality but recently added 4th lane can be recognized.

Pics were taken somwehere here:

















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Old August 25th, 2010, 08:11 PM   #1449
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Thanks for the pictures. The A-roads really resemble motorways and upgrading them would be a bliss for the network.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 09:35 PM   #1450
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Old August 25th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #1451
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Thanks for the pictures. The A-roads really resemble motorways and upgrading them would be a bliss for the network.
Indeed some do, and indeed it would change the map totally.
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And they are definitely needed. The insane level of traffic registered is some sections is the evidence of that.
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Thanks for the pictures. The A-roads really resemble motorways and upgrading them would be a bliss for the network.
How do you mean upgrade them? More lanes? or is it just the paper and different colour signs job to make them motorway?
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And they are definitely needed. The insane level of traffic registered is some sections is the evidence of that.
If they resemble motorways, why would a legal order and blue, rather than green signs make a difference with the traffic flows?
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Build more lanes if possible, at least in some of the busiest sections. And lots of repavement to make them as uniform as possible (the mix of asphalt and concrete can make a joruney quite bumpy as I've said here previsouly).
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Old August 26th, 2010, 01:43 AM   #1455
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and get rid of roundabouts, sorry but the section of A27 between Portsmouth and Brighton can only be seen in a 3rd world country
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Old August 26th, 2010, 07:51 PM   #1456
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and get rid of roundabouts, sorry but the section of A27 between Portsmouth and Brighton can only be seen in a 3rd world country
You've obviously never been to Australia. If you take the dual carriageway north out of Cairns to the northern beaches, you have to go past nine roundabouts in quick succession. The traffic jams can be horrendous.
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Removing some roundabouts would definitely have to part of a future upgrade.
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Old August 28th, 2010, 12:31 AM   #1458
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My 2 year experience in London was horrible, whenever i went to france it was a completely different country, excellent food excellent roads. I would prefer to pay 20 euros to go from Calais to Paris at least their motorways are empty with top notch quality. On the other hands british one are always jammed , there is concrete pavement of some sections and many key routes are missing, i will say it agian and again get rid of roundabouts at busy junctions!!!!!!!!! who the heck had the idea to build a roundabout juction between A1M and M25 ??? i can give many examples how bad the british roads are compared to the europeans...
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Old August 28th, 2010, 03:41 AM   #1459
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and get rid of roundabouts, sorry but the section of A27 between Portsmouth and Brighton can only be seen in a 3rd world country
I take it you've never been to an actual "third world country" then?
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