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Old October 31st, 2010, 01:18 AM   #1801
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Maybe the councils are scared of being sued by nimby's for no particular reason that anyone else would find credible
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Old October 31st, 2010, 03:53 AM   #1802
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well it's partly true. for example council highway departments may be hestitant to approve a scheme to provide a shared-use street (without yellow lines or streets signs but visual cues instead) due to the risk of someone coming along, having an accident etc, and then blaming the council. It's beginning to change these days as agreements are set beforehand to prevent the blame falling on the highway engineers for example.
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Old October 31st, 2010, 02:14 PM   #1803
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Northern Ireland: Newry Bypass

NI A1: Newry Bypass

The Newry bypass opened in July of this year, and replaced the last non-dual section between the NI/RoI border and Belfast. It is built to "High Quality Dual Carriageway" standard, which (in the RoI at least) is equivalent to motorway standard (but without motorway restrictions).

Here's a map of the route (heading north). Had to use OSM, as Google Maps hasn't been updated yet.


1. Just after the merge of the northbound on-ramp at the Newry south exit. Lots of blasting was done in this area to make space for the northbound carriageway we're on.


2. RCS northbound after the Newry south exit. There should really be a reminder here that these distances are in miles.


3. Check out the view over Newry city to the Mournes from this viewpoint.


4. Approaching the junction with the A25. This is the exit I'd use for Newry on a Sunday morning, as the Newry south one has fairly long tailbacks on the old A1 when entering the city.


5. Signage at the exit.


6. We're now offline from the old A1. Up until the Camlough Road exit, the existing A1 was dualed. North of here it's all new build.


7. The countryside around here is quite rolling.


8. Note the viaduct on this bend.


9. Quite bendy here.


10. Approaching Sheepbridge junction.


11. On-slip at Sheepbridge. We're approaching the route of the old A1, north of Newry.


12. RCS north of Sheepbridge.


13. Newry bypass section ends shortly after this bridge. The next few km until Banbridge are a recently-completed upgrade of the low-standard road that existing previously. However, the upgrade still has at-grade crossings, the first you'll have encountered since the traffic lights at Whitehall in Dublin city.
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Old October 31st, 2010, 06:05 PM   #1804
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What I don't get is why the Cloughogue Roundabout junction got put on signs as Newry South, but the others didn't have similar treatment. Why no Newry West and Newry North (I know that leaves you either Sheepbridge or Carnbane to rename)? I prefer Cloughogue to be called just that myself (and numbered either 21 or on some A1 junction numbering system), but some consistency would be nice.

Aren't Sheepbridge and Carnbane totally new junctions as well. Tsk...
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Old October 31st, 2010, 10:57 PM   #1805
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Nice road and very picturesque landscape.

Does anyone have a clue what might be the purpose or reason of this graffiti?

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Old November 1st, 2010, 01:07 AM   #1806
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NI A1: Newry Bypass

The Newry bypass opened in July of this year, and replaced the last non-dual section between the NI/RoI border and Belfast. It is built to "High Quality Dual Carriageway" standard, which (in the RoI at least) is equivalent to motorway standard (but without motorway restrictions).


This road, despite being good, would not comply to modern motorway standards.
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Old November 1st, 2010, 12:13 PM   #1807
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So the Newry Bypass means also there is at least dual carriageway all the way from Belfast to Dublin now?
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Old November 1st, 2010, 12:23 PM   #1808
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So the Newry Bypass means also there is at least dual carriageway all the way from Belfast to Dublin now?
Yes, that is correct.

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Old November 1st, 2010, 12:23 PM   #1809
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This road, despite being good, would not comply to modern motorway standards.
Why not?

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Old November 1st, 2010, 10:35 PM   #1810
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In the UK, despite that technically I supose they could make it a motorway, they couldn't really because.

a) The centrebarrier is not very big, combined with the central reservation not being a not to wide grass strip.
b)The size of the acceleration lane in picture 11.
c)The design of the exit in picture 3.

However, there are old motorways, or basically the British M50 in the UK with these characteristics, may be the M90 too, but
I don't know whether the M90 has such tight exits though.

UK M50:



I think that I've seen this pic somewhere in this thread before though.
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Old November 1st, 2010, 11:09 PM   #1811
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Hmm, interesting. I hadn't thought of the barrier, though south of the border there are sections of the M1 with a similar barrier.

Similarly, there are LILO (left-in, left-out) style junctions (albeit with concrete kerbing) on some of the new motorway sections down south too (M18 and the under-construction part of the M7).

I think the acceleration lane in picture 11 is unnaturally shortened by the zoom on the camera.

Overall, while maybe not 100% perfect, much less perfect stretches of road in the UK have been designated motorway in the past, so I don't see it much of a stretch to classify the Newry bypass as motorway. With the possible exception of the centre barrier (and the missing SOS phones), it would seem to meet the Republic's standards for a motorway anyway.

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Old November 2nd, 2010, 01:08 AM   #1812
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Standard have gone up a lot since the 1950's, it would pass as a new motorway then, but not now
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Old November 4th, 2010, 07:23 PM   #1813
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csd, thanks for the pictures, really smooth pavement!
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Old November 12th, 2010, 11:50 PM   #1814
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Old November 14th, 2010, 12:19 AM   #1815
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I think that I've seen this pic somewhere in this thread before though.
I think you're right. Come to think of it, I think I also remarked on how the lorry could be headed for a crash (overturning) trying to turn at the speed it's going.
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Old November 14th, 2010, 12:26 AM   #1816
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Old November 20th, 2010, 02:47 PM   #1817
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Would anyone be able to point me in the direction of a website that shows where major roadworks are taking place? I make trips up to the north of England and Scotland about 3 or 4 times a year, so not frequently enough to know when & where the major projects are taking place. Last weekend, I drove up to Harrogate via the M3, M25, M1, M18 and A1 - but the journey took longer than it needed to because I ran in to the widening works on the north western stretch of the M25 and on the M1 near Luton. I did check Traffic England before I left, but that only showed congestion due to accidents...and not the longer term roadworks. Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #1818
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You need to tick the box on the right labelled "Roadworks on" on Traffic England.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 09:52 PM   #1819
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CBRD still has it's 'Futures' section which details pretty much every large-ish scheme taking place on the main roads of the UK. It's updated by regular visitors too so there's new information on there practically every week.

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/futures/
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Old November 21st, 2010, 04:07 PM   #1820
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Thanks for the links, I had asked the same question a few months back and the answers were negative.
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