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View Poll Results: Which of these three cities would you like to see host the 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games?
Madrid 184 20.15%
Istanbul 441 48.30%
Tokyo 288 31.54%
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Old February 17th, 2012, 01:30 AM   #4341
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Good luck to Doha for when they try to buy out the IOC
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Old February 17th, 2012, 04:53 AM   #4342
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Instead of mocking people around, be useful and state some facts that what madrid is doing sounds fine, im not against it, it just seems alarming to me.

25% unemployment and 100% private funding doesnt sound good. Did any other city in the past organise the entire olympics fully funded by the private sector? ?!

What if this socalled private funding joins the recession affected side and bails out. What then?
Los Angeles 1984 and Atlanta 1996 (Don't know about Salt Lake City).

Both of which are US cities that got a profit in the end.

Utilize as much existing venues as possible and fund the rest either by Olympics budget alone (most likely for temporary venues) and Private Sector funding for permanent ones.

The only closest Public Sector funding for say Atlanta was general infrastructure projects like their rail network.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 10:37 PM   #4343
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official web page
http://www.istanbul2020.com.tr/

i like te turquoise colour and Seljuk patterns... soft and clear image
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Old February 18th, 2012, 07:06 PM   #4344
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Baku+2020= Summer Olimpic Games
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Old February 18th, 2012, 07:15 PM   #4345
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Good luck to Doha for when they try to buy out the IOC
Oh, don't worry. It's kinda easy.
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Old February 19th, 2012, 12:23 AM   #4346
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No it isn't. After the Salt Lake City bid scandal, for their 2002 Winter Olympics. The IOC has put forward a set of strict rules in regards to the acceptance of gifts, bribes etc which it will not accept under any circumstances. These rules can be found in the Candidate Acceptance Procedure Report.
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Old February 19th, 2012, 12:32 AM   #4347
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Are you THAT naive ?
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Old February 19th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #4348
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It's up to the people of Madrid and its government to deicde that, not us. Polls I've seen suggest there is popular support, and the government obviously thinks the Games will be good for the economy. So if they want to be considered, I don't see why it's any of our business to say otherwise.

The IOC is going to places like Brazil and China. Places with favellas and rural poverty on a massive scale. Perhaps they should have sorted out their (much) bigger problems "first" also?
Totally agree
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Old February 19th, 2012, 02:13 AM   #4349
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Are you THAT naive ?
Aherm, the IOC has learned from the past. They won't be accepting bribes from anyone, especially Doha, especially since they and everyone else KNOWS that Qatar bribed FIFA to get the 2022 World Cup.

Any form of bribe from anyone will automatically get that city banned. They don't want to risk it.

Now whose naive?
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Old February 19th, 2012, 12:13 PM   #4350
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the most important time of votings will be when madrid tokyo and istanbul left the last 3.
it will be the break point of 2020 race
both 3 will be around 30 to 40 votes, if madrid elliminates istanbul gets the games, if istanbul elliminate tokyo will get the games,and if tokyo elliminates i dont know but again istanbul can be the winner.
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Old February 19th, 2012, 01:25 PM   #4351
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Old February 19th, 2012, 06:21 PM   #4352
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The race for the 2017 World Athletics was probably a stronger indicator of Qatar's chances than the 2022 World Cup. Doha offered the IAAF pretty big sums in their bid (all above board) but they went with London:

The Doha bid is coming to a close, and the Big Man is ready to apply the finishing touches. Here comes Sheikh Saoud Bin Abdulrahman Al-Thani off the long run. "Our government is ready to invest heavily in your event," he says. He promises an investment of $80 million to host the 2017 championships, plus a further $120 million to redevelop the Khalifa Stadium and install state-of-the-art air cooling, plus $29 million in sponsorship for events like the Diamond Leauge and the World Series. That's not including the $7.2 million it is also committing to pay for the 2017 prize money.

Why did they choose London instead of this? Well...this from earlier in the vote was very revealing:

'Reporters are not allowed in the IAAF council room but are following events by live video feed. This has just caused a few red faces among IAAF officials because journalists started to receive an audio feed of IAAF senior vice-president Bob Hersh giving his evaluation report of the two bids, which was not meant to be for public consumption. Encouragingly for London, he raised the issue of athletics crowds in Doha emptying the stadium long before the end of the meeting, as happened at this season's Diamond League event. Alas, the audio then snapped off.'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oly...vote-live.html


Doha could put up a good fight but they'll have a huge task to get the majority of the IOC behind them.
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Old February 20th, 2012, 01:36 PM   #4353
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Baku applicant file is available in the link:

http://baku2020.com/applicantfile/
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Old February 20th, 2012, 03:02 PM   #4354
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Baku.... What A safe Bid is. Must be Spread & Like It!!! Awesomely Cool!!!
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Old February 21st, 2012, 01:33 AM   #4355
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The Doha 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games Bid Committee today unveiled its plans to host one of the most accessible, ‘fan friendly’ Games in modern history, with a focus on utilizing existing and planned sports venues in five Sports Zones.

The plans include:

91% of sports venues already built or already planned and budgeted for as part of the Qatar National Vision 2030

No need for any new, permanent sports venues, or Games-related infrastructure investment, ensuring only minimal additional spending would be required to stage the 2020 Games

Average travel times for all athletes and media from the Games Centre of no more than 21 minutes to every single competition venue – these will become even faster with planned transport improvements

Opening and Closing ceremonies to take place at the new Lusail National Stadium [the venue for the opening match and final of the 2022 FIFA World Cup]

Khalifa Stadium to be upgraded to a 60,000 capacity dedicated Athletics stadium

Doha’s new $21 billion metro system will link to 78% of all sports venues

50,000 hotel rooms and serviced apartments will be within 15km of the majority of Games venues

The compact hosting plan, world class transport system and location of accommodation will ensure spectators can watch several events in a single day

Almost half of all Games tickets will be priced at less than $25

Legacy developments include the region’s first women’s High Performance Training Centre, and the only Olympic-standard Velodrome in the Middle East

Doha 2020 also confirmed that it proposes to host the Olympic Games between 2 October and 18 October, and the Paralympic Games between 4 November and 15 November, to ensure ideal conditions for athletes and spectators.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 02:33 AM   #4356
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Its gonna be Cape Town South Africa if the 2010 world cup is very successful. IOC president recently visited South Africa and said the country will be perfect for an olympic game.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:05 AM   #4357
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My ranking of the 2020 Olympic applicant cities:

1. Istanbul (tie)
2. Baku (tie)
3. Tokyo
4. Madrid
5. Doha (underdog)
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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:29 AM   #4358
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The Doha 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games Bid Committee today unveiled its plans to host one of the most accessible, ‘fan friendly’ Games in modern history, with a focus on utilizing existing and planned sports venues in five Sports Zones.

The plans include:

91% of sports venues already built or already planned and budgeted for as part of the Qatar National Vision 2030

No need for any new, permanent sports venues, or Games-related infrastructure investment, ensuring only minimal additional spending would be required to stage the 2020 Games

Average travel times for all athletes and media from the Games Centre of no more than 21 minutes to every single competition venue – these will become even faster with planned transport improvements

Opening and Closing ceremonies to take place at the new Lusail National Stadium [the venue for the opening match and final of the 2022 FIFA World Cup]

Khalifa Stadium to be upgraded to a 60,000 capacity dedicated Athletics stadium

Doha’s new $21 billion metro system will link to 78% of all sports venues

50,000 hotel rooms and serviced apartments will be within 15km of the majority of Games venues

The compact hosting plan, world class transport system and location of accommodation will ensure spectators can watch several events in a single day

Almost half of all Games tickets will be priced at less than $25

Legacy developments include the region’s first women’s High Performance Training Centre, and the only Olympic-standard Velodrome in the Middle East

Doha 2020 also confirmed that it proposes to host the Olympic Games between 2 October and 18 October, and the Paralympic Games between 4 November and 15 November, to ensure ideal conditions for athletes and spectators.
The Venues' Plans remind me with Rio 2016 Venue Plan (the same main stadium for FIFA World Cup & Olympics), But, why October (as during Seoul 1988 & Tokyo 1964 Olympiad)?

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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:31 AM   #4359
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Sorry for Double Post

According to Tokyo 2020 application file, they'll renovate or rebuild the main stadium. try compare the current map & the plan if they surely make 80k seats stadium.

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Old February 21st, 2012, 07:44 AM   #4360
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The Venues' Plans remind me with Rio 2016 Venue Plan (the same main stadium for FIFA World Cup & Olympics), But, why October (as during Seoul 1988 & Tokyo 1964 Olympiad)?
And Don't forget Mexico City 1968. It all has to do with weather. Qatar is extremely hot during June/July/August, so they want to host the Olympics in October, where the weather is more bearable. Like their 2016 bid, they won't win on account of the dates factor, which is not ideal for the International Federations and North American broadcasters.
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