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View Poll Results: Which of these three cities would you like to see host the 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games?
Madrid 182 19.98%
Istanbul 441 48.41%
Tokyo 288 31.61%
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 04:39 AM   #5061
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For me is more than logical:

2020 Istanbul
2024 Toronto
2028 Asia
2032 USA
2036 Europe

I bet that!!
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 04:55 AM   #5062
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Arguments in favor of the Tokyo bid:

- Tokyo has the most extensive and efficient public transport system in the world. No new trains need to be built.

- All the facilities needed for Tokyo 2020 are already built. Aside from a major renovation of the National Stadium (which will be renovated for 2019 Rugby World Cup anyway), Tokyo does not need to build any major facility.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 10:46 AM   #5063
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- Tokyo has the most extensive and efficient public transport system in the world. No new trains need to be built.
Are you joking?





Yes, the system is efficient, 3 people on a square foot...
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 10:56 AM   #5064
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Not my favourite. Looks like something from a souvenir stand in Amsterdam.
Yes, you are right. The logo resembles the famous dutch flower and the colours also resemble the dutch flag.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 10:59 AM   #5065
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Actually the flower, tulip is also a symbol in Turkey
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 12:59 PM   #5066
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Yes, the system is efficient, 3 people on a square foot...
In peak hour congestion of course.

I'd expect the transport problem to be alleviated with additional services as well as encouraging businesses to permit annual leave to workers, as to allow ease of congestion on the public transport network.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 02:00 PM   #5067
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The Olympics games are in 2020

8 years from now.

A lot of things happen in 8 years. 8 years ago Turkey has barely recovered from its own economic crisis, Spain was booming. Today, Spain is in an economic crisis, Turkey is booming. For all we know, in 8 years the roles will be reversed once more.

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But the final choose is in 1 YEAR.

And if you considering EU Money transfer with boooming

Turkey is booming with his own power.And Spain will be definately passed by 2020s.Turkeys market and population is bigger.Our export market is not only Europe,but North Africa,Middle East,Russia and Central Asia.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 03:40 PM   #5068
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Fears Spain will need a full bailout: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18950896
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 06:05 PM   #5069
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Yes, the system is efficient, 3 people on a square foot...
Oshiya's are only brought in during peak hours and only in the busiest stations like Shinjuku and Tokyo.

Japan has the most extensive public transport system in the world, and most of the facilities that will be used for Tokyo 2020 are already in place.

The congestion of daily/peak travel hours are mitigable.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 07:48 PM   #5070
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Well the 2nd picture is from the early 1990s when there was a problem...but the rail network in Tokyo has greatly increased its efficiency (with more trains, more lines etc) since then. In the first picture, you can see that in Shinjuku Station and Tokyo station during peak rush hour (around 30 minutes in the evening and morning). Basically if a tourist to the olympics happens to get stuck at peak evening rush hour at Shinjuku station (the busiest station in the world) and they are paranoid about being packed into the train they should just wait about 30 minutes for it to pass.

But also by 2020, there will be even more service improvements to the Tokyo network so the crowding will be even less.

Also even now, outside of peak rush hour you can usually even get a seat on the trains..and if not there'll be plenty of space to stand.

This is what Shinjuku Station is like now during rush hour (2012)



Go to 1:56 to see the trains situation today. Nothing at all like the famous videos from 1993.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 08:51 PM   #5071
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I've nothing against SOG in Tokyo, though Japan had WOG in 1998, which is just 22 years ago in 2020. I bet Tokyo will get it in 2028!
The spanish bid is insolent for several reasons, the games will go to Turkey for sure! A country with a booming economy whicht has never hosted a major sports event before!
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 09:12 PM   #5072
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ISTANBUL IS BEAUTIFUL

My vote is for Instanbul
A cross section of cultures - Turkey, deserves to be rewarded for all the development achieved.

Madrid with the credit crisis should withdraw.
Tokyo is pretty clogged much like London.
Istanbul has been attempting for a while, it is time Istanbul gets selected.

All the best to ISTANBUL.
But, the logo sucks.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 09:20 PM   #5073
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The logo of the WC 2006 in Germany was awful, the WC was wonderful, the BEST summer in Germany ever!
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 11:53 PM   #5074
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lol Tekken, why am I even bothering

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Old July 24th, 2012, 12:13 AM   #5075
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It would be interesting to watch opening and closing ceremonies of Tokyo olympics. Because I think the organisators will invent some new technologies (like maybe realistic HD in-mid-air holograms) to show them to public for the first time during those ceremonies.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 12:33 AM   #5076
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Tokyo has hosted before. It's time to "spread the wealth around". After letting London have the Olympics for a third time, the IOC really needs to try a fresh city. Tokyo is the largest and wealthiest city in the world. It doesn't need the Olympics again.

As others have noted, Spain is in no position to bid for 2020. The winning city will be chosen next year and Spain will still be in deep financial trouble. Also, this relatively small country has hosted in 1992. It's too soon for Spain. The Eurocentric IOC would likely want to give it Madrid, but the stars just don't line up right for 2020. 2028 or 2032? Maybe.

Istanbul is my choice by default. (This is all contingent upon would-be Islamic terrorists behaving themselves in London, of course.)
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Old July 24th, 2012, 12:38 AM   #5077
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Istanbul is my choice by default. (This is all contingent upon would-be Islamic terrorists behaving themselves in London, of course.)
I highly doubt whatever happens in London, by whomever, will have an impact on Istanbul's bid.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #5078
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Tokyo!

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BTW why Tokyo and not Osaka or another japanese city?
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lol Tekken, why am I even bothering
Sorry that Bulgaria have not the capacity to pass Spain´s economy even in 1000 years

Even with EU Money

Now that is a good economical analysis which is more real and logical
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