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Old February 20th, 2009, 03:09 PM   #81
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Peter on London's comment had me laughing and crying at the same time!
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Old February 20th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #82
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This appears a very poor decision to call in this project. There is no significant outcry about this project, no major protest or issue at stake. It will be a long delay, there will likely be no change resulting, and it will cost all parties including govt a lot of money - totally pointless.
And all because some 'body' has complained was it EH by any chance?. Hazel you really need to stop having public enquiry's for every tall building in this city and stop listening to your useless advisers . It's making a mockery of the planning system and is costing developers and the taxpayers silly amounts of money just to prove that a building in most cases is actually a good idea.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 01:06 PM   #83
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Anger as Blears calls in Minerva's £1bn Ram Brewery
23 February, 2009
By Michael Willoughby

Wandsworth council leader slams decision to hold up EPR-designed regeneration scheme

The leader of Wandsworth council, Edward Lister, has slated Hazel Blears for risking investment in the south London borough after the communities secretary called in Minerva's £1bn Ram Brewery redevelopment.

“It's unbelievable that in the depths of a recession we have a government that would put at risk £1bn of investment in a suburban town centre,” said Lister after the developer announced on Friday that the EPR-designed scheme had been called in.

In a letter to the borough, Blears said that “she ought to decide herself because she considers the proposals may conflict with national policies on important matters” including building heights, landscaping, hazardous installations (the site contains gas holders) and affordable housing.

The council had approved the 1m sq ft project in December despite a Cabe review in which the government's design watchdog criticised the architectural plans for a “lack of quality”.

The development, on which EPR is lead architect, was for two towers of 42 and 32 storeys built on the site of the former Young's Brewery, along with nine other buildings including some renovation of the original brewery.

Leslie McDonnell, a conservative councillor for Wandsworth, said: “The whole development has been designed to make the most of the site's unique industrial heritage. It aims to create an attractive environment that will change for ever people's perceptions of the town centre.”

Developer Minerva had the scheme approved after pledging an extra £41m in transport improvements to the area.

It would say nothing more on the communities secretary's decision beyond confirming that it would “continue to pursue the opportunity”.







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Old February 23rd, 2009, 01:32 PM   #84
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OK Hazel, it's not funny anymore.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 01:39 PM   #85
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What's wrong? We shouldn't be unquestionably supporting big developments. The fact that there isn't enough affordable housing, that it's dangerous and that CABE think it's rubbish all seem to be good reasons for calling it in.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 01:42 PM   #86
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true. But height as an important national policy?! I wouldnt mind quality as an important national policy!
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 01:45 PM   #87
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Yup, I'd agree that quality should certainly take priority over height but density of development should take account of its environment. I think that Wandsworth Town could probably cope with a development of this scale but it's a question of the quality of this specific development.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 05:38 PM   #88
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What's wrong? We shouldn't be unquestionably supporting big developments. The fact that there isn't enough affordable housing, that it's dangerous and that CABE think it's rubbish all seem to be good reasons for calling it in.
Oh come on. If this didn't have two towers as part of the proposal no one would give a flying f*ck. We all know it, no matter what crap is said. It sure as hell wouldn't go to a P.I.
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Old October 12th, 2009, 10:37 AM   #89
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PI is set for 3rd November.

http://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/info/85...all_in_inquiry
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Old October 12th, 2009, 02:12 PM   #90
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Could anyone please tell me, where does the mayors office stand regarding this development? Will Boris have any say in the P.I or is it the sole decision of the communities secretary?

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Old October 12th, 2009, 09:53 PM   #91
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This is Minerva. They have failed twice. Please dont let this one go
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Old October 13th, 2009, 09:25 PM   #92
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Is this the same Minerva that had PP for a 50 storey tower in the City and plumped for a 12 storey lump? If so, they reap the wind they sow.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 11:41 AM   #93
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Ram Brewery is 'Wandsworth's most exciting develoment since railway', inquiry hears
http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/...inquiry_hears/
Monday 7th December 2009


By Paul Cahalan


The Ram Brewery could house the most significant collection of brewery buildings in England, the public inquiry looking into the £300m redevelopment of the historic site has heard.

But, it also heard, plans – which include creating twin towers, one 42 storeys high the other 32, as well as other commercial and residential space – could be the most exciting development since railway revolutionised the borough.

Both arguments were put before the inquiry on Friday, which is judging whether developer Minerva’s plans to revamp the historic site should go ahead.

On Friday Dale Ingram, a Tooting resident and conservation consultant, said she felt compelled to address the inquiry to save the brewery’s Grade II and Grade II* listed buildings.

She said her research showed the Ram Brewery was one of only three purpose built industrial breweries remaining in the UK.

She told the inquiry: “The significant appraisal of the Ram Brewery shows that we have, potentially, the most significant surviving collection of brewery buildings in England.”

Earlier the inquiry heard from Councillor Stuart Thom who said the project was “the most exciting thing since the Surrey Iron Railway” – which linked, in 1803, parts of south London, including Wandsworth, by rail.

He said he supported the development as the potential to create housing, jobs and retail outweighed any losses.

The inquiry earlier heard concerns about the height of the towers, the affordable housing allocation (which accounts for 11 per cent of the development), the viability of schemes to improve Wandsworth’s one-way traffic system and concerns about the loss of life should a gas holder at the north end of the site explode.

All of Wandsworth’s amenity society’s (Battersea, Wandsworth and Putney) submitted a joint objection against the plans along with the Clapham Junction Action Group.

Many, including Councillor Tony Belton, leader of the labour group in the council, Battersea MP Martin Linton – who wrote to the Communities Secretary after Wandsworth Council approved Minerva’s plan last December – and residents’ groups spoke at the inquiry.

After the Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, signed off the project, Communities Secretary Hazel Blears “called-in” the decision – citing concerns with the towers’ height and affordable housing.

Leader of Wandsworth Council called the call-in decision “unbelievable”, adding that it jeopardised £600m of development.

The inquiry, which is being held at the Capital Studios in Wandsworth Plain, concludes this week after hearing three weeks of evidence.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 06:35 PM   #95
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Seriously if Wandsworth can handle an absolutely horrid and dated, overpowering tower block right in the centre of it and that massive tube ball thing on the south end of Wandsworth bridge then it can handle two sleek riverside skyscrapers beside the long list of highrises on the Thamesfront in that part of the world.
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Old December 7th, 2009, 08:51 PM   #96
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I agree, what's exactly wrong with this development?
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Old December 8th, 2009, 05:52 PM   #97
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Nothing that i can see (they're tall, you've had your say Hazel now FO!), they have a nice shape and are exactly what this area needs for christ sake.
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Old December 8th, 2009, 07:35 PM   #98
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I'm glad to see that the old chimney is staying from the brewery
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Old December 8th, 2009, 08:39 PM   #99
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I agree, what's exactly wrong with this development?
I haven't had a look precisely at the plans. I'm for tall slender towers close to the riverside but there may be some bad aspects to the project that we don't know. At first sight, the low rise elements look very average and don't do justice to the site nor the industrial heritage. That said, these are only comments made without knowing much of the proposed development.
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Old December 8th, 2009, 08:40 PM   #100
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Don't mind the towers at all. Not sure about the midrise. Does anyone know what the existing brewery buildings that are being demolished are like? If they're any cop, it might be possible to combine the toers with the old buildings. Seems from some of the renders posted above that they're doing it already to a degree.

I visited the Distillery District in Toronto recently. Nice.

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Doesn't show the fact that modern shiny skyscrapers are popping up in the backgroud all around it. The contrast is great
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