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Old September 19th, 2007, 02:03 AM   #61
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Why oh why they had to go and change it...
Because it was too ugly.
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Old September 19th, 2007, 02:18 AM   #62
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Then again, what's the former Constantinople doing in the chart?
And no offense to B&H, but Sarajevo doesn't look very EE or European or even Balkan........
Istanbul is there because its in europe, my friend from the former Ottoman empire. I am not trying to be rude (and im not turkish, im romanian), but im just giving my point of view.
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Old September 19th, 2007, 02:22 AM   #63
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I'm with 3tmk, the first renderings for Russia tower were much better. Why oh why they had to go and change it...
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Old September 19th, 2007, 03:55 AM   #64
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Istanbul is there because its in europe, my friend from the former Ottoman empire. I am not trying to be rude (and im not turkish, im romanian), but im just giving my point of view.
I am from former Bulgarian, Roman and Byzantine Empires. Ottomans are not counted because they are backward.
Welcome to the EE forum you Asia Minor supporter!
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Old September 19th, 2007, 05:43 AM   #65
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Oh come on man, there are quite a few people on SSC who do like this tower. I'd say it's a split down the middle... I think a lot of people who "hate" this tower would love to see it built in their own cities. I know for a fact that if this was being built in Sofia or Calgary, I'd be pretty happy...
That's because in Bulgaria we're desperate
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Old September 19th, 2007, 05:47 AM   #66
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I'd hate to say it 3tmk, but we are desperate indeed. You're right about that one. Hell, we call anything over 20 stories a skyscraper... At least the Bulgarian media did once upon a time!
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Old September 19th, 2007, 10:45 AM   #67
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116 floors, 612 meters

and those who understand russian can watch that
It is quite controversial tower but I like it very much, big country = big tower. Finally Moscow gets tall and well designed tower. I'm looking forward for hearing from site...
Foster's buildings are sometimes hard to appreciate ( but always well design, iconic, with some idea in it) and people may like or dislike them, but one is true - they don't leave anyone indifferent in positive meanning of course - that's one of roles of modern architecture IMHO. Anyway, great news! Good luck!
In Poland there are priests at every construction site start too -

By the way, what are grounds in Moscow like in terms of building tall towers? Do contractors have to avoid deep digging? What is the ground structure more or less?
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Old September 24th, 2007, 11:36 PM   #68
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Newest visualisation of Sky Tower (258m) in Wroclaw. Not bad for my taste.

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Old September 25th, 2007, 07:50 AM   #69
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Holy shit, 1000xs improvement! I hated the whole, skybridge thing. Let them finally settle with this design and go ahead and build it.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 09:28 PM   #70
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In the right part of the picture you can see 4 new skyscrapers planned(one is u/c) near Moscow City
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Old October 21st, 2007, 12:54 PM   #72
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I am from former Bulgarian, Roman and Byzantine Empires. Ottomans are not counted because they are backward.
Welcome to the EE forum you Asia Minor supporter!
Take that!

Skyscrapers under construction in Istanbul:


Diamond of Istanbul:
271m






Sapphire Istanbul:
261m




Istanbul Flora Centre (ooopss Asian side)
120m






Istanbul Palladium (ooop asian side)





Istanbul Selenium Complex 140m




Istanbul Kempinski 127m





Maslak Tower 135m





Istanbul Mallpark 190-200m






Mecidiyeköy Plaza 170m





Istanbul BuYaka ca 115m





Istanbul AI Tower 105m



I am lazy to go on! I decided to talk about real facts with you since this is skyscrapercity.com and not tellmeyourcomplexes.com. So it will be Moscow or Istanbul, one of these two cities.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 12:59 PM   #73
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Take that!

Skyscrapers under construction in Istanbul:


Diamond of Istanbul:
271m






Sapphire Istanbul:
261m




Istanbul Flora Centre (ooopss Asian side)
120m






Istanbul Palladium (ooop asian side)





Istanbul Selenium Complex 140m




Istanbul Kempinski 127m





Maslak Tower 135m





Istanbul Mallpark 190-200m






Mecidiyeköy Plaza 170m





Istanbul BuYaka ca 115m





Istanbul AI Tower 105m



I am lazy to go on! I decided to talk about real facts with you since this is skyscrapercity.com and not tellmeyourcomplexes.com. So it will be Moscow or Istanbul, one of these two cities.

great!
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Old October 21st, 2007, 03:04 PM   #74
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Old October 21st, 2007, 05:07 PM   #75
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I really like Istanbul Mallpark & Diamond of Istanbul

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Old October 21st, 2007, 05:12 PM   #76
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Some render of the proposed 175m skyscraper near Moscow City

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Old October 21st, 2007, 05:34 PM   #77
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Thank you Sun&Sun. Nobody ever doubted that the modern Turkish republic is much more progressive than the Ottoman Empire. We have to thank Ataturk for that. Good job!
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Old October 21st, 2007, 06:17 PM   #78
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great!
FFS you quote 20 pics just to write "great"? Sorry but what's your iq?
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Old October 21st, 2007, 06:28 PM   #79
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Who's the architect of that gherkin tower in Moscow?
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Old October 21st, 2007, 08:07 PM   #80
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Thank you Sun&Sun. Nobody ever doubted that the modern Turkish republic is much more progressive than the Ottoman Empire. We have to thank Ataturk for that. Good job!
Well nowadays being progressive means having stable economy, infrastructure and developed cities while being progressive in former times was defined differntly. When I look at a Europe that killed people because of their different religious just 70 years ago or a Europe that conquered Latin America killed the inhabitants and make the rest change their religion and language or a British Empire whose influence can be still seen over the world or A France that massacared Africans or any European nation that exploited their colonies Ottoman were quite progressive and lieberal.
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