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Old October 24th, 2007, 10:39 PM   #121
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Oh by the way, the best skyline in EE will neither be Moscow, Warsaw, Istanbul.

Here's a sneak peak for whats to come for an EE city not much talked about here





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Old October 24th, 2007, 10:48 PM   #122
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EU is not a country.
I do not get what is the realition between London, Paris, Frankfurt with Bratislava(for example), Do Frenchs build skyscrapers in Sofia because it's an EU city
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Old October 24th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #123
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So by your standards you can have a cluster of a handful of highrises a little over 100m and call it the best skyline in EE (there are probably several of those already). By far, Moscow has more buildings over 100m than any other Eastern European city.
No, but you can have a handful of 200+ skyscrapers (like Istanbul will probably have) and some other 100+ ones and an overall decent skyline and voila: a much better looking skyline than that of Moscow's.

Don't get me wrong, I love how the area around Fed Tower is developing, but the rest of the city is not that great with all the commies or stupid highrise residentials.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 11:29 PM   #124
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For now, Warsaw has the best (IMO, of course) skyline in EE. In the future, Istanbul may surpass it. Moscow doesn't stand a chance because of... history. They can build great buildings in the area around Federation Tower, but when you'll look at the overall skyline and see the bunch of commies and stupid highrise residentials you'll not be very pleased.

Sir, I do not understand you. Have you ever been in Warsaw? Or Moscow for that matter? Moscow doesn't have anything that Warsaw does not...and that goes for commies and "stupid highrise residentials". Moscow's commies are actually somewhat nicer than Warsaw's.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 11:57 PM   #125
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It seems one is not allowed to say that in his opinion Warsaw's skyline is better than Moscow's, or that Moscow may be surpassed by Istanbul. That being said, I'll keep this kind of opinions to myself, and only post when I have something good to say about Moscow (which I've said in the past).

Will this suit you?
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Old October 25th, 2007, 12:02 AM   #126
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You don't know what you're talking about.
Think a little before saying/writing something.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 12:06 AM   #127
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Warsaw or Moscow, because Istanbul or Turkey for that matter isn't in Eastern Europe.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 12:12 AM   #128
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Well, let me put it this way:
-I said I think Warsaw's skyline is for now better than Moscow's
-I said that in the future I think Istanbul (will consider it to be in EE) will have a better skyline than Moscow
-I said this is because Moscow has a lot of (commies) and (most importantly) some ugly ass highrise residentials
-those ugly buildings will somewhat blunt the overall look of the skyline, thus allowing a city like Istanbul to "take the crown" (have a better overall skyline).

Bare in mind I very much like the area around Federation Tower, so I don't have anything against Moscow.

Anyway, I was only expressing my opinion and I have presented my point of view (twice now), so you don't really have to understand me, because it's afterall just my opinion. If I say I like Aston Martin, but you like Ferrari, do you really have to understand me? No... you have your opinion, I have mine.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 12:15 AM   #129
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When have I said that I do not agree with you?
I have personally said many times that Warsaw's skyline is, at least at present, better than Moscow's skyline, even with all the shiny new towers.

What I'm saying is simply that you cannot single out Moscow as the only city with a "of commies and stupid highrise residentials". Warsaw has plenty of those too, believe me.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 12:21 AM   #130
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Ok, your answer seemed a bit ambigous to me. Sorry.

Yes, there's no EE city without commies, though there are many without ugly highrise residentials, not talking about commies here, (like Bucharest, Budapest and from what I know and see, Warsaw). My point is that looking at Warsaw's and Moscow's skylines, the first is more "plesant to the eye", even though it doesn't have the same average height... and to me the overall look is important. Afterall, we're not talking about the tallest skylines...

But fuck the big players! What do you think will be the best skyline in EE, excluding Moscow, Warsaw and Istanbul (if we consider it to be in EE)? From what I can see, the fight will be between Bucharest, Bratislava, Wroclaw and Vilnius.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 12:58 AM   #131
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EU is not a country.
I do not get what is the realition between London, Paris, Frankfurt with Bratislava(for example), Do Frenchs build skyscrapers in Sofia because it's an EU city
And Turkey (and/or Russia) are EE/Balkan countries?

BTW Austrians and Estonians are building the first scrapers in Sofia.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 02:34 AM   #132
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But fuck the big players! What do you think will be the best skyline in EE, excluding Moscow, Warsaw and Istanbul (if we consider it to be in EE)? From what I can see, the fight will be between Bucharest, Bratislava, Wroclaw and Vilnius.
Yup, Wroclaw is defenitly a big one, and with how things are going in Warsaw
(or better said, not going) I wouldn't be suprised if Wroclaw would develop a better skyline than Warsaw by 2015
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Old October 25th, 2007, 03:08 AM   #133
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Ekaterinburg is gonna have greatone in a few years.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 03:29 AM   #134
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It depends how you would define "best skyline" for other cities ( barring Moscow, Warsaw, and Istanbul ). Mainly, I think, this would have to do with the area of the city and if we are talking clusters of just random 30+ floorers scattered around the city.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 12:20 PM   #135
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And Turkey (and/or Russia) are EE/Balkan countries?
Isn't Thrace is a region in Balkans?
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Old October 25th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #136
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Hard to say which skyline will be the best in 2015 but I think Istambul ftw, 2nd will be Warsaw and 3rd Moscow.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 08:56 PM   #137
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Could you show us future Warsaw's skyline?
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Could you show us future Warsaw's skyline?
It's just few pages later...
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Old October 25th, 2007, 09:24 PM   #139
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There are tons of plans for Warsaw but nothing is currently being built. Nothing of signifficance that is. But when Warsaw explodes it will explode in style for sure.
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Hopefully Warsaw won't explode

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