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Old April 2nd, 2009, 05:16 PM   #401
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I'm realizing more and more that re-skinning buildings isn't always a good idea. In the case of One Indiana Square, it was needed since the current facade isn't engineered properly to handle high winds. It's too bad too; the original Indiana National Bank facade (not the tacky facade that was added around 1994) was a great example of an international style skyscraper.
Welcome to the forum! Do you have any pictures of the original facade?
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 06:14 PM   #402
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Welcome to the forum! Do you have any pictures of the original facade?
When he says new facade, he's actually just referring to the tacky jutting white "crown" and blue striping that used to be at the top until the current renovations started.

The black windows and white stripes that are currently being replaced with the new blue glass were part of the original design. Although they did replace the original marble white stripes at some point with another material because it was falling off of the higher levels, but that didn't change their look. I'm not sure if that happened when they added the crown in the 90s or not. It may have been much earlier.

Here's the original facade:


Here's the 90's update:
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 09:13 PM   #403
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When is this supposed to be finished up? I know I'm echoing the common complaint of "this is painfully slow" but I can't find a completion date anywhere in this thread or through the initial links. Sweet photos on page 18... those guys are nuts!
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 12:46 AM   #404
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When is this supposed to be finished up? I know I'm echoing the common complaint of "this is painfully slow" but I can't find a completion date anywhere in this thread or through the initial links. Sweet photos on page 18... those guys are nuts!
The lower part, maybe we can take a collection... Anything at the hardware store that will help the lower part?
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 12:46 AM   #405
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When is this supposed to be finished up? I know I'm echoing the common complaint of "this is painfully slow" but I can't find a completion date anywhere in this thread or through the initial links. Sweet photos on page 18... those guys are nuts!
I don't think anyone really knows!

I think we've stopped paying attention because the dates keep getting pushed back and switched around.

Hopefully before the upcoming Final Fours and the Super Bowl.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 04:39 AM   #406
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I drove by there yesterday, and the west side was roughly 1/3-1/2 finished, I was rather impressed as I drove by. This tower is going to look very professional when finished.
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I drove by there yesterday, and the west side was roughly 1/3-1/2 finished, I was rather impressed as I drove by. This tower is going to look very professional when finished.
Good I want professional, non boring buildings, and maybe they are getting this thing right in some ways... For 39 years or so, it has not been as professional and modern as some of us would like, but at least 32 or so floors will be quite nice.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 03:25 PM   #408
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I work in this building as you know. I will try to pin-point a time frame of when were all done. Last I heard it will be June.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 05:17 PM   #409
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I work in this building as you know. I will try to pin-point a time frame of when were all done. Last I heard it will be June.
June ...of this year? HA!

Seriously, we should've started a betting pool on this a long time ago.
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June ...of this year? HA!

Seriously, we should've started a betting pool on this a long time ago.
I say that and today they aren't working due to the high winds. It could happen. Looks like they are done mounting the support beams on the east and west sides. The glass goes up pretty fast after that.
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Old April 9th, 2009, 04:43 PM   #411
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June ...of this year? HA!

Seriously, we should've started a betting pool on this a long time ago.


This is an image that was posted on this thread in late March of last year. If I recall correctly, the south facade was pretty much on the same pace. While it doesn't seem like it when we all look at the tower on a daily basis, they have made steady progress over the last year, and given the speed with which the west side has shaped up in the last couple of weeks, a 2-3 month timeline for it to look substantially complete doesn't seem wacky.
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Old April 10th, 2009, 05:23 AM   #412
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Wish a couple more downtown buildings would get a new skin. The Old Blue Cross, and The Old Indiana Bell....
I can think of a multiple of structures downtown that need refaced before the Old Indiana Bell building.
The addition isn't that great but the original part of it is somewhat attractive.
It is made of stone and carries a sort of uniform with the courthouse.
Besides, how many downtown highrises are made of stone and not granite?
I like it the way it is.
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I'm realizing more and more that re-skinning buildings isn't always a good idea. In the case of One Indiana Square, it was needed since the current facade isn't engineered properly to handle high winds. It's too bad too; the original Indiana National Bank facade (not the tacky facade that was added around 1994) was a great example of an international style skyscraper.
I disagree.
I think that Indy's skyline will improve greatly with a more reflective facade.
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June ...of this year? HA!

Seriously, we should've started a betting pool on this a long time ago.
Can I enter your pool before I place my guess?
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Can I enter your pool before I place my guess?
Personally, I think that this thing will be finished(the way they want it to be finished) by September 5th.
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I can think of a multiple of structures downtown that need refaced before the Old Indiana Bell building.
The addition isn't that great but the original part of it is somewhat attractive.
It is made of stone and carries a sort of uniform with the courthouse.
Besides, how many downtown highrises are made of stone and not granite?
I like it the way it is.
I don't care for the original. If it would have been like alot of 1920's-1930's buildings -yes. Those Empire State looking types. Even some 200 footers look taller with the needle type look. Ft. Wayne has one if I am not mistaken. I don't mind the granite addition because the time it was put in. Give some reflection and color to the street area.
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Old April 12th, 2009, 03:51 AM   #417
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There is some amazing history to that building. An 8 story building on its site was moved around the corner in 1930 to make room for it. The telephone company was originally built as a seven story building, then seven more stories were added in the late 40's and then six or seven additional stories were added in the sixties. When you know more about the history of different buildings - it makes the building much more interesting. More details about the building and the history of that corner in Indpls are provided in the link below:

http://b-levi.com/research/arch/vonnegut/ind_bell.php
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Old April 13th, 2009, 06:06 AM   #418
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My mom worked in that building when I was a kid and her co-workers would always tell me how the building had been turned on giant blocks of ice at one time when I visited. I think I may have even remembered pictures of it somewhere. There is no mention of it on that page though...
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From the way I ready the story in the link above, it wasn't the current limestone SBC (formerly Indiana Bell) building that was moved. It was the building that sat there before - which housed the Central Union Telephone Company. That 1907, eight story brick building was moved around the corner to make way for the Indiana Bell building. The limestone SBC building was then built on that site, (SW corner of New York and Meridian) beginning in 1930. (The old 1907 building that was moved is gone now and the 17 story Capital Centre North building now sits on that site.)
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There seems to be quite a bit of urban mythology based on that building move. The way I had previously heard it was that the building was moved from facing New York Street to Meridian so that it could have the Meridian Street address. Most word-of-mouth stuff I have heard about seems to erroneously involve the current AT&T building being moved, not its predecessor on the site.

I think the building is fairly attractive from street level and as one of Indy's few large buildings of the era certainly merits preservation. The addition I don't like so much. Speaking of the addition, that particular look (a couple of "narrowed" floors topped by a flat roof the size of the lower floors), is reproduced in several other Indiana cities, including Muncie and South Bend. Is there a particular function to this look, or is it simply an old branding effort by Indiana Bell?
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