TAMPA | SouthGate | 20 stories | 450,000 sq. ft. office | APR

youngkg · July 23rd, 2007, 03:43 PM

450,000 square feet of offices seekto tap current market demand downtown

TAMPA -- The city's first new downtown office building in nearly two decades is expected to open by 2010 on a Channel District site that was planned for residential condominium development just two years ago.

Trammell Crow Co., the development arm of CB Richard Ellis Group Inc., intends to break ground next spring on the 20-story, green-glass structure -- to be called Prime Meridian Center -- on the northwest corner of Meridian Avenue and Channelside Drive.

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/...23/story1.html

smiley · July 23rd, 2007, 03:51 PM

There is a rendering on the cover of the Biz Journal - if anyone wants to get it, scan and post it

randommichael · July 23rd, 2007, 03:55 PM

I really think the building should be higher than 20 stories in that location...

John F · July 23rd, 2007, 04:06 PM

The O2 site... A midrise tower in the channel area, nice...

Michael -- I don't think you could get more height in that location with thanks to the Harbour Island residents complaining about not being able to get off the island. Remember density is what killed Downtown Channelside/Blu and basically was located at the southeast corner of that intersection.

FloridaFuture · July 23rd, 2007, 04:51 PM

I'm alright with a 20 story tower for that sight as long as it is dense enough of a site layout and we eventually get taller (600'+) towers farther North on Meridian.

youngkg · July 23rd, 2007, 04:59 PM

Here is the image of the tower:

Source: bizjournals.com

Jasonhouse · July 23rd, 2007, 05:28 PM

I read about this friday, but forgot to post about it this weekend... I'm very glad to see some jobs FINALLY being created downtown, but the site plan is weak imo. This isn't some suburban office tower, this is going downtown. Hopefully the city will not allow so much prime DT land to be wasted on such a relatively small project.

FloridaFuture · July 23rd, 2007, 05:37 PM

Kind of boxy and plain looking. Might of looked better as a 30-40 story tower.

John F · July 23rd, 2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaFuture

Kind of boxy and plain looking. Might of looked better as a 30-40 story tower.

Like I said above though, FF, you probably wouldn't get approval (or would be fought) if you tried to get a larger building on that location.

Regardless of the tower and the tower size, if this gets built the winner isn't the tennants and what not. It's Newks next door. Finally they will have a steady flow of customers all day instead of just around events at the Forum.

randommichael · July 23rd, 2007, 05:47 PM

I'm hoping this gets built...but with at least 35 stories. I agree with Jason, that we shouldn't let them waste a valuable spot on a project like this.

Dave01walk · July 23rd, 2007, 05:57 PM

I'm just glad to see something built there. We need to start filling in the space between downtown and Channelside. I don't think it looks that bad either.

FloridaFuture · July 23rd, 2007, 06:15 PM

Well with a 20 story tower there is only but so imaginable you can get with a design I suppose. Not just because of its size but because of the decreased $$$ involved.

Dale · July 23rd, 2007, 08:28 PM

Even at 20 stories, it might be a 300-footer.

***I-275westcoastfl*** · July 23rd, 2007, 09:27 PM

well thats good we want downtown to be built out this is a good filler project.

jonknee · July 23rd, 2007, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale

Even at 20 stories, it might be a 300-footer.

Most office buildings don't have 15 foot ceilings.

smiley · July 23rd, 2007, 09:52 PM

260-300 - that's ok.

My biggest problem is with the parking garage. It seems more logical to put it under the main part of the building and save the space, but, given that the city wants "point towers" they might like it this way. IF we are stuck with it that way, I only hope they force retail on the graound floor with covered sidewalks.

Jasonhouse · July 23rd, 2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randommichael

I'm hoping this gets built...but with at least 35 stories. I agree with Jason, that we shouldn't let them waste a valuable spot on a project like this.

Note that I'm not referring to height, but overall site density.

The FAA won't allow anything over like 275ft (or some very similar number) on that site... But to me, that doesn't mean allowing a myopic developer to come in a and drop a cheap box and prefab parking structure on the site. I would rather the site sit vacant until someone willing to develop the property to its maximum potential comes along.

Dave01walk · July 23rd, 2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiley

260-300 - that's ok.

My biggest problem is with the parking garage. It seems more logical to put it under the main part of the building and save the space, but, given that the city wants "point towers" they might like it this way. IF we are stuck with it that way, I only hope they force retail on the graound floor with covered sidewalks.

I was thinking the same thing about this. 02 if I recall, had about 5 acres. If the whole garage was under it, it might make space for another buiding. On a key note though...Now we have another garage for parking during Hockey games.

randommichael · July 23rd, 2007, 10:38 PM

^ Agreed. I also do not like the parking stuck behind the building. Why not build something nice looking on top of the garage too.

FloridaFuture · July 23rd, 2007, 11:56 PM

I'm kind of surprised there isn't a second office/hotel tower on top of the parking garage.

Anyway, just for clarification, is this project taking up the whole former O2 site or just the corner of Meridian and Channelside? Or does anybody know?

Having an office tower in Channelside is nice, but I would've rather had a 400'+ over by Franklin Street or in Northern Channelside around the Finergy site.

July 23rd, 2007, 03:43 PM	#1
youngkg Tampa - St Pete Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 139 Likes (Received): 0	TAMPA \| SouthGate \| 20 stories \| 450,000 sq. ft. office \| APR 450,000 square feet of offices seekto tap current market demand downtown TAMPA -- The city's first new downtown office building in nearly two decades is expected to open by 2010 on a Channel District site that was planned for residential condominium development just two years ago. Trammell Crow Co., the development arm of CB Richard Ellis Group Inc., intends to break ground next spring on the 20-story, green-glass structure -- to be called Prime Meridian Center -- on the northwest corner of Meridian Avenue and Channelside Drive. http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/...23/story1.html Last edited by TampaMike; February 12th, 2012 at 03:38 AM.

July 23rd, 2007, 03:51 PM	#2
smiley Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,099 Likes (Received): 0	There is a rendering on the cover of the Biz Journal - if anyone wants to get it, scan and post it __________________ Do I contradict myself? Well then, I contradict myself. I am large. I contain multitudes. I don't pretend 'cause I don't care.

July 23rd, 2007, 04:06 PM	#4
John F Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 2,218 Likes (Received): 0	The O2 site... A midrise tower in the channel area, nice... Michael -- I don't think you could get more height in that location with thanks to the Harbour Island residents complaining about not being able to get off the island. Remember density is what killed Downtown Channelside/Blu and basically was located at the southeast corner of that intersection. __________________ Raw Charge - Tampa Bay Lightning hockey

July 23rd, 2007, 09:52 PM	#16
smiley Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,099 Likes (Received): 0	260-300 - that's ok. My biggest problem is with the parking garage. It seems more logical to put it under the main part of the building and save the space, but, given that the city wants "point towers" they might like it this way. IF we are stuck with it that way, I only hope they force retail on the graound floor with covered sidewalks. __________________ Do I contradict myself? Well then, I contradict myself. I am large. I contain multitudes. I don't pretend 'cause I don't care.

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July 23rd, 2007, 03:55 PM	#3
randommichael Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,414 Likes (Received): 0	I really think the building should be higher than 20 stories in that location...

July 23rd, 2007, 04:51 PM	#5
FloridaFuture Former Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa/Gainesville Posts: 5,238 Likes (Received): 1	I'm alright with a 20 story tower for that sight as long as it is dense enough of a site layout and we eventually get taller (600'+) towers farther North on Meridian.

July 23rd, 2007, 04:59 PM	#6
youngkg Tampa - St Pete Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 139 Likes (Received): 0	Here is the image of the tower: Source: bizjournals.com

July 23rd, 2007, 05:28 PM	#7
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,318 Likes (Received): 8	I read about this friday, but forgot to post about it this weekend... I'm very glad to see some jobs FINALLY being created downtown, but the site plan is weak imo. This isn't some suburban office tower, this is going downtown. Hopefully the city will not allow so much prime DT land to be wasted on such a relatively small project.

July 23rd, 2007, 05:37 PM	#8
FloridaFuture Former Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa/Gainesville Posts: 5,238 Likes (Received): 1	Kind of boxy and plain looking. Might of looked better as a 30-40 story tower.

July 23rd, 2007, 05:47 PM	#10
randommichael Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,414 Likes (Received): 0	I'm hoping this gets built...but with at least 35 stories. I agree with Jason, that we shouldn't let them waste a valuable spot on a project like this.

July 23rd, 2007, 05:57 PM	#11
Dave01walk Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 238 Likes (Received): 0	I'm just glad to see something built there. We need to start filling in the space between downtown and Channelside. I don't think it looks that bad either.

July 23rd, 2007, 06:15 PM	#12
FloridaFuture Former Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa/Gainesville Posts: 5,238 Likes (Received): 1	Well with a 20 story tower there is only but so imaginable you can get with a design I suppose. Not just because of its size but because of the decreased $$$ involved.

July 23rd, 2007, 08:28 PM	#13
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 7,735 Likes (Received): 29	Even at 20 stories, it might be a 300-footer.

July 23rd, 2007, 09:27 PM	#14
*I-275westcoastfl* Jestem Hardkorem Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 5,534 Likes (Received): 35	well thats good we want downtown to be built out this is a good filler project.

July 23rd, 2007, 10:38 PM	#19
randommichael Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,414 Likes (Received): 0	^ Agreed. I also do not like the parking stuck behind the building. Why not build something nice looking on top of the garage too.

July 23rd, 2007, 11:56 PM	#20
FloridaFuture Former Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa/Gainesville Posts: 5,238 Likes (Received): 1	I'm kind of surprised there isn't a second office/hotel tower on top of the parking garage. Anyway, just for clarification, is this project taking up the whole former O2 site or just the corner of Meridian and Channelside? Or does anybody know? Having an office tower in Channelside is nice, but I would've rather had a 400'+ over by Franklin Street or in Northern Channelside around the Finergy site.