TAMPA | SouthGate | 20 stories | 450,000 sq. ft. office | APR

[smiley]

Bingo.

[Casey]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

This project has always struck me as value engineered crap, no matter where it was proposed to be built.

Absolutely. Excellence is clearly not the objective with this project.

[FLHawk]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/plans-m...-years/1236063

Plans moving ahead for downtown Tampa's first office tower in 20 years
By Elizabeth Behrman, Times Staff Writer
Elizabeth Behrman Tampa Bay Times In Print: Tuesday, June 19, 2012


The real estate firm behind the SouthGate Tower project has provided a glimpse of what could be the newest addition to Tampa's waterfront skyline.

Trammell Crow Co. plans to break ground on SouthGate Tower, a 20-story office building with a 1,200-car parking garage, early next year. It is expected to be completed by early 2015, and the adjacent 350-room upscale hotel is expected to be finished by 2016.

The project, once seemingly doomed by the economic downturn, is expected to rise near the Tampa Bay Times Forum off the Lee Roy Selmon Expressway. SouthGate is designed to reduce solar exposure and will feature energy-efficient lighting and water-conserving fixtures.

It will be downtown Tampa's first new office tower in 20 years.

Because it will be close to the nightlife and business amenities of downtown Tampa, Bob Abberger, managing director of Trammell Crow Co., said the tower is a prime example of the "work, live, play" concept.

"It's the right product for downtown," he said. "It is where corporate America wants to be."

While there are no committed tenants yet, Abberger said the company is in negotiations with several possible tenants and has been fielding calls from many interested parties.

By the time SouthGate Tower is completed and ready, Abberger said, law firms, banking firms and other service industries that could use the large spaces will be in the right place financially to sign a lease.

[Jasonhouse]

Leave it to me to point out the irony in these statements...

It will be downtown Tampa's first new office tower in 20 years.

Bob Abberger, managing director of Trammell Crow Co., said the tower is a prime example of the "work, live, play" concept.
"It's the right product for downtown," he said. "It is where corporate America wants to be."

My guess is if DT Tampa was really an example of the kind of urban location desired by "corporate America", then this wouldn't be the first serious proposal for a new DT office tower in a generation.

[jonknee]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

My guess is if DT Tampa was really an example of the kind of urban location desired by "corporate America", then this wouldn't be the first serious proposal for a new DT office tower in a generation.

I took it not as DT Tampa is where corporate America wants to be, but a DT in general. As opposed to suburban office parks.

[jonknee]

Not sure if this had been linked before, but Colliers has a flier (PDF) about it that includes the high res rendering. There's some info on their site too.

[ThatFloridaDude]

Ugly project but nice to see it. Glad for the downtown growth

[Dale]

We'll take it in Orlando if you Tampans don't want it.

[Del Mayberry]

I'm still doubtful about this. That whole article was written in "IF". "Could be" doesn't mean "will be." Close to the nightlife? Really? Waterfront? Really?

[TPAMAN]

I don't know why just about every project that is announced has a garage incorporated on the site which takes up such a large footprint? Why this city does not require developers to build up instead of out is beyond me. What a waste of space and interaction each time one of these garages get built.

[koopalicious]

This is unacceptable until there is, at the very least, retail in the garage. And why is the "shopping" along the north part of the building only accessible from inside? Who do they think is leasing that?!

[TPAMAN]

Suburban sub-office market thinking...think barber shop, sundries store, etc...how pathetic

[Del Mayberry]

Originally Posted by TPAMAN

I don't know why just about every project that is announced has a garage incorporated on the site which takes up such a large footprint? Why this city does not require developers to build up instead of out is beyond me. What a waste of space and interaction each time one of these garages get built.

I hear ya. If it was built more like Skypoint with the parking built in, it would be more like 25 -30 stories and could have some kind of retail on the first floor.

[HARTride 2012]

This sounds like a massive FAIL by the way I'm reading the above article.

[Jasonhouse]

This project has always given a strong whiff of being done on the cheap. My guess is the brokers representing potential tenants can pick up the same scent even better than we can.

[TPAMAN]

Trammell Crow has developed mostly suburban office parks. I believe their most recent large project was the former Capital One campus in Town and Country area of the Veterans Expressway. Large floor plans are not suppose to be in downtown unless you incorporate the entire site for a massive multi-use building which would be more appropriate (IMHO).

[tampasteve]

Originally Posted by koopalicious

This is unacceptable until there is, at the very least, retail in the garage. And why is the "shopping" along the north part of the building only accessible from inside? Who do they think is leasing that?!

From the site plan and floor plans it looks like the ground floor of the office building will have outside entrances (at least the two 5,000sqft spaces) along Brorien or the entrance drive (depending on the space). Probably gunning for a bank to occupy the space fronting Brorien.

At least it fills a really desolate area of town with a decent looking building. Nice to have another hotel in that area of town too.


Steve

[Del Mayberry]

It would have been sweet if they combined the two for mixed use office/hotel. God forbid we get another 40+ tower.

[Jasonhouse]

That would cost more.

[TampaMike]

Can anyone tell me exactly what is happening with parking for this? I was under the assumption I would be able to say goodbye to two-story tall Whiting Garage with this project. But finally looking over site plans Southgate, it looks like it will stay which is ridiculous. The city should sell the land and see if Collier picks it up. Tear down the garage and down the line add a apartment or condo tower and retail.