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Maxim98 · December 13th, 2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiley

IF approved, it jsut shows how ridiculous the city council can be in approving this with a apparent lack of any street retail or shading but complain about eventhing in so many better projects.

Yup.

(Another) mistake.

In 30 years, when the a developer purchases the building and plans on demolishing it for something better, perhaps the council will have clued in a bit more.

dmpeek77 · December 13th, 2007, 07:08 PM

This was already approved wasn't it?

Jasonhouse · December 14th, 2007, 06:49 PM

^Yeah, at the October 25th meeting... Once they mentioned that they had raised the LEED standard they are pursuing to Gold, most of the Council got randy. (this will be only the 2nd large office tower in the SE that is LEED Gold, the other one being built in Charlotte by BofA)

They did add some recessed retail along Meridian which is nice, but I'm mostly concerned with the lack of interaction on the Channelside side of the building. There will be a cafe on the corner of Meridian, and that's it...

tampasteve · February 22nd, 2008, 10:02 PM

They have their website up now:
http://primemeridiancenter.com/

There is not too much there now except for the date of January 2010 and then a PDF with the building in placed in the skyline.

I still like it and think it will look nice in the skyline, I especially like that it is along the TECO line. It is worthwhile to notice that they are playing up the fact that they are on the TECO line and using it as a sales point.

Steve

FloridaFuture · February 22nd, 2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tampasteve

They have their website up now:
http://primemeridiancenter.com/

There is not too much there now except for the date of January 2010 and then a PDF with the building in placed in the skyline.

I still like it and think it will look nice in the skyline, I especially like that it is along the TECO line. It is worthwhile to notice that they are playing up the fact that they are on the TECO line and using it as a sales point.

Steve

Thanks for posting the site. Here is the picture:

jonknee · February 22nd, 2008, 10:44 PM

That angle shows the gap between CBD and Channelside pretty well. It's all surface lots and 1-3 story buildings. Hopefully Prime will help start bridging the gap.

CubanBread · February 23rd, 2008, 12:18 AM

I hope it gets built, gotta start fillin those gaps inbetween downtown and Channelside.

Imagine if that empty area was full,... Tampa would have a fierce downtown.

randommichael · February 23rd, 2008, 12:30 AM

^ Tampa would have an awesome downtown if all of that filled in. I'd like to see it jumping to 40-50-60-70 story towers...

TampaMike · February 23rd, 2008, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randommichael

^ Tampa would have an awesome downtown if all of that filled in. I'd like to see it jumping to 40-50-60-70 story towers...

As everyone else on here, but nothing above 50 will happen, not until Peter O'Knight is gone.

TampaGuy · March 8th, 2008, 05:05 PM

I know a lot of people do not like this but...
they added more information to their website.
including overview ,building...
http://www.primemeridiancenter.com

TampaGuy · March 8th, 2008, 05:08 PM

One of the rendering show there might be retail under the parking gargage...
http://www.primemeridiancenter.com

jonknee · March 8th, 2008, 05:39 PM

Not might, there is a "retail colonade" along with a restaurant and bank. And lots of bike racks. The restaurant space fronts Channelside Dr and has patio tables. Pretty cool all around.

http://www.primemeridiancenter.com/siteplan.html

tampasteve · March 8th, 2008, 07:06 PM

That is great! Retail plus a bank and restaurant will help to pull a lot of people behind this project, the retail is a good use of the garage. I love the bike path and lots of bike parking, this type of ammenity will be ideal in the future DT area, IMHO.

Steve

FloridaFuture · March 8th, 2008, 07:55 PM

Not bad....

I'd like to see retail on Merdian but it appears that the intention of that road is to act as a fast way in and out of Channelside by car. It just sort of isolates the Channelside district north of Cahnnelside Drive form the rest of downtown. Oh well, we'll eventually get projects on East side of this one anyway.

FloridaFuture · March 9th, 2008, 01:54 AM

New renderings as well:

And here is the site plan which the link was already posted too:

TampaMike · March 9th, 2008, 04:50 AM

I actually have grown to like this building. At first I didn't really think it would fit into Channelside and another reason was I believed it lacked retail, but with this news, my opinion has change. I like that there is interaction with it, every project should have something to give. I also believe this will help the City realize we need to extend our trolley, connecting such buildings like Bank of America or Skypoint to Hooters or Splitsville and connecting Prime Meridian to Fly.

FloridaFuture · March 9th, 2008, 04:56 AM

^It has grown on me too but...

As the 2 renderings from the north made me realize, I wish that the parking garage has the ability to eventually have more built on top of it, and/or at the VERY least be covered. Eventually, southern Channelside will densify, and it bothers me that an ugly garage could be there indefintley. That goes for the Channelside garage too.

TampaMike · March 9th, 2008, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaFuture

^It has grown on me too but...

As the 2 renderings from the north made me realize, I wish that the parking garage has the ability to eventually have more built on top of it, and/or at the VERY least be covered. Eventually, southern Channelside will densify, and it bothers me that an ugly garage could be there indefintley. That goes for the Channelside garage too.

True, both garages need more fixing, espicially this one.

The renders look kinda off to me. The one with retail, it looks like the garage is shorter and missing a story. And also, are they really gonna allow parralel parking???

FloridaFuture · March 9th, 2008, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pres_of_2036

True, both garages need more fixing, espicially this one.

The renders look kinda off to me. The one with retail, it looks like the garage is shorter and missing a story. And also, are they really gonna allow parralel parking???

Nice catch, it does appear to be off a floor. Caeser Street is a side street so they may allow parallel parking for the retail.

Jasonhouse · March 9th, 2008, 09:24 AM

Well hot damn... someone at the city needs a thank you letter.(probably Wilson Stair)

February 22nd, 2008, 10:02 PM	#104
tampasteve Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,362 Likes (Received): 2	They have their website up now: http://primemeridiancenter.com/ There is not too much there now except for the date of January 2010 and then a PDF with the building in placed in the skyline. I still like it and think it will look nice in the skyline, I especially like that it is along the TECO line. It is worthwhile to notice that they are playing up the fact that they are on the TECO line and using it as a sales point. Steve __________________ Homer: Face it, Marge, Catholics rule! We got Boston, South America, the good part of Ireland, and we're makin' serious inroads in Mozambique, baby! "My badger's gonna unleash hell on your ass. Badgertastic!"

February 22nd, 2008, 10:44 PM	#106
jonknee Downtown resident Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,285 Likes (Received): 0	That angle shows the gap between CBD and Channelside pretty well. It's all surface lots and 1-3 story buildings. Hopefully Prime will help start bridging the gap. __________________ What I've been up to in the kitchen

March 8th, 2008, 05:08 PM	#111
TampaGuy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 392 Likes (Received): 0	One of the rendering show there might be retail under the parking gargage... http://www.primemeridiancenter.com Last edited by TampaGuy; March 8th, 2008 at 05:10 PM. Reason: Actually it shows there will be a bank, resturant, and retail on ceasar street.

March 8th, 2008, 05:39 PM	#112
jonknee Downtown resident Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,285 Likes (Received): 0	Not might, there is a "retail colonade" along with a restaurant and bank. And lots of bike racks. The restaurant space fronts Channelside Dr and has patio tables. Pretty cool all around. http://www.primemeridiancenter.com/siteplan.html __________________ What I've been up to in the kitchen

March 8th, 2008, 07:06 PM	#113
tampasteve Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,362 Likes (Received): 2	That is great! Retail plus a bank and restaurant will help to pull a lot of people behind this project, the retail is a good use of the garage. I love the bike path and lots of bike parking, this type of ammenity will be ideal in the future DT area, IMHO. Steve __________________ Homer: Face it, Marge, Catholics rule! We got Boston, South America, the good part of Ireland, and we're makin' serious inroads in Mozambique, baby! "My badger's gonna unleash hell on your ass. Badgertastic!"

December 13th, 2007, 07:08 PM	#102
dmpeek77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago also Tampa Bay Posts: 206 Likes (Received): 0	This was already approved wasn't it?

December 14th, 2007, 06:49 PM	#103
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,268 Likes (Received): 7	^Yeah, at the October 25th meeting... Once they mentioned that they had raised the LEED standard they are pursuing to Gold, most of the Council got randy. (this will be only the 2nd large office tower in the SE that is LEED Gold, the other one being built in Charlotte by BofA) They did add some recessed retail along Meridian which is nice, but I'm mostly concerned with the lack of interaction on the Channelside side of the building. There will be a cafe on the corner of Meridian, and that's it...

February 23rd, 2008, 12:18 AM	#107
CubanBread POW SUCKA! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ybor City Posts: 506 Likes (Received): 0	I hope it gets built, gotta start fillin those gaps inbetween downtown and Channelside. Imagine if that empty area was full,... Tampa would have a fierce downtown.

February 23rd, 2008, 12:30 AM	#108
randommichael Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,414 Likes (Received): 0	^ Tampa would have an awesome downtown if all of that filled in. I'd like to see it jumping to 40-50-60-70 story towers...

March 8th, 2008, 05:05 PM	#110
TampaGuy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 392 Likes (Received): 0	I know a lot of people do not like this but... they added more information to their website. including overview ,building... http://www.primemeridiancenter.com

March 8th, 2008, 07:55 PM	#114
FloridaFuture Former Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa/Gainesville Posts: 5,234 Likes (Received): 0	Not bad.... I'd like to see retail on Merdian but it appears that the intention of that road is to act as a fast way in and out of Channelside by car. It just sort of isolates the Channelside district north of Cahnnelside Drive form the rest of downtown. Oh well, we'll eventually get projects on East side of this one anyway.

March 9th, 2008, 01:54 AM	#115
FloridaFuture Former Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa/Gainesville Posts: 5,234 Likes (Received): 0	New renderings as well: And here is the site plan which the link was already posted too:

March 9th, 2008, 04:50 AM	#116
TampaMike Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 6,140 Likes (Received): 5	I actually have grown to like this building. At first I didn't really think it would fit into Channelside and another reason was I believed it lacked retail, but with this news, my opinion has change. I like that there is interaction with it, every project should have something to give. I also believe this will help the City realize we need to extend our trolley, connecting such buildings like Bank of America or Skypoint to Hooters or Splitsville and connecting Prime Meridian to Fly. __________________ Corporations Are People Too - Mitt Romney For the People that dress up like Corporations.

March 9th, 2008, 04:56 AM	#117
FloridaFuture Former Mod Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa/Gainesville Posts: 5,234 Likes (Received): 0	^It has grown on me too but... As the 2 renderings from the north made me realize, I wish that the parking garage has the ability to eventually have more built on top of it, and/or at the VERY least be covered. Eventually, southern Channelside will densify, and it bothers me that an ugly garage could be there indefintley. That goes for the Channelside garage too. Last edited by FloridaFuture; March 9th, 2008 at 05:01 AM.

March 9th, 2008, 09:24 AM	#120
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,268 Likes (Received): 7	Well hot damn... someone at the city needs a thank you letter.(probably Wilson Stair)

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