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Old December 14th, 2011, 12:42 PM   #241
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hm.is that some sort of disegreement with my statement.?
In any case there`s a lot of other examples of modern 2x1 roads than RV 70
yep, the major part of it, except for Salarakan samt the northenmost connection to the rest of the Riksväg 70 within the Västmanland but even Dalarna has undoubtedly been new build, but nevertheless, rebuld in accordance to the current standard of how 2x1 roads are expected to look like - which is wider than 12,25m and definitely not acc.to the dimensions that Matti showed here
Yes. Newbuilds and upgrades are wider than original standard of 12.25 metres. That is well understandable.

The reason why Sweden was able to so quickly introduce hundreds of kilometres of 2+1 roads with separation, was accepting the narrow construction on top of the existing roads as a reasonable trade-off between the functionality and the cost.
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Old December 18th, 2011, 06:31 PM   #242
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The end of the 2+1 section on the A246 in Leatherhead

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Old September 29th, 2012, 11:37 PM   #243
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1 x 3 in southern France, near Perpignan (think it was D900)
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Old September 30th, 2012, 12:43 AM   #244
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Proper suicide lane. Not many left in Western Europe.
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Old September 30th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #245
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Belgium

In Belgium still quite a few exist although many are converted to 2+1 in the last 10 years.


N3 between Diest and Herk-de-stad




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Old October 1st, 2012, 12:07 AM   #246
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There is a short section (1.2 km only) on the Swedish road 222 having a reversible middle lane:

https://maps.google.fi/?ll=59.312082...66.54,,0,-6.63

The middle lane is open to the inbound traffic (to Stockholm) in the morning, and to the outbound one in the afternoon.

Initially, the middle lane was planned to be closed during the winter because of low traffic. I wonder if this still is the case.
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Old October 1st, 2012, 06:29 PM   #247
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In Belgium still quite a few exist although many are converted to 2+1 in the last 10 years.


N3 between Diest and Herk-de-stad

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...Naamloos-1.png

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I don't understand, there is enough space for 4th lane. IMO safer overtaking is more important than safe place to stop the car
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Old October 1st, 2012, 09:22 PM   #248
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1 x 3 in southern France, near Perpignan (think it was D900)
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thats why yellow lanes is important.
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Old October 1st, 2012, 09:58 PM   #249
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I don't understand, there is enough space for 4th lane. IMO safer overtaking is more important than safe place to stop the car
There would be no hard shoulders if a 4th lane was there, and also the road runs through urban area's a lot where it is reduced to a 1+1 road with median. The road is lined with houses on most places too. The suicide lane becomes a turning lane if a street crosses the road. I agree the part I showed isn't very safe to drive on. The road is probably been the same since the 70ties. The concrete is also from that time! Shows the high standard concrete roads in Belgium where made off in those golden years. To bad they don't produce them like that anymore.
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 10:43 AM   #250
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thats why yellow lanes is important.
How would you put yellow lines there if both sides are allowed to use the road as two lanes? Makes no sense.
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 12:20 PM   #251
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 08:16 PM   #253
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Żyrardów by pass, part of DK50 which in turn is Warsaw's southern HGV bypass.
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 09:30 PM   #254
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Old October 3rd, 2012, 05:11 PM   #255
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How would you put yellow lines there if both sides are allowed to use the road as two lanes? Makes no sense.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 08:46 PM   #256
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I drive on one of these everyday. It has a double yellow in between opposing directions and the passing side alternates every 2 miles with a 1/4 mile margin of safety in between.

I've never been on a road with a true suicide lane, with broken lines on both sides allowing either opposing direction to pass to the left in the same area.
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Old October 7th, 2012, 07:37 PM   #257
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Video of the northern part of the newly built Norra Länken, Umeå, Sweden. This is how 2+1 roads usually look in Sweden.

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Old October 15th, 2012, 12:01 AM   #258
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Old December 7th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #259
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There is a lot more French roads in this movie.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #260
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Fout this video of the Belgian N9 Between Maldegem and Sijsele. Filmed in 2011, I think this read is still in the same condition. Probably concrete has never been resurfaced since the 70ties and the road didn't change since then. In the meantime ofcourse, urbanisation crawled forward along this road wich was quite rural back then.

2+1 sections and suicide lane sections. Enjoy this road of the past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=mNH5aNIjzFA#!

ps: I can not embad this video because it is made private and can only be watched by this link
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