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Old November 14th, 2010, 10:41 PM   #2201
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I assumed. I don't know. But we all fantasized about the number of Constanta Bypass - A21, A20, A2b etc and we got A4.. So...
But who said Constanta bypass is going to be designated A4? I couldn't find a single press article stating such a thing!
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Old November 15th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #2202
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I for one asked CNADNR and received an official letter signed by the head (Mrs. Tiron at that time) stating that it is A4.
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Old November 15th, 2010, 10:19 AM   #2203
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It will start before DN1, but not from A1, and will end in DN2, before A2 (red section).

The green section on the south side is already contracted and works will start next year. The 2 blue sections are not yet contracted, but the minister of transportation announced this week she obtained from the EU 120 million financing for it and most probably will be contracted next year as well.



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European Commission to finance stretches connecting northern ring road to A1 and A2 motorways

15 Noiembrie 2010

The European Commission (EC) will finance work on the two stretches of the northern ring road of Bucharest that make the connection to the Bucharest-Pitesti Motorway (southern Romania) and to the Sun Motorway (south-eastern Romania), the value of this work being estimated at 120 million euros.

“The European Commission has accepted to finance work meant to ensure the connection between the ring road and the two motorways. It refers to the two ends of the ring road making the connection to the Bucharest-Pitesti Motorway and the Sun Motorway,” said Minister of Transports and Infrastructure Anca Boagiu.

The stretch between Chitila and Voluntari is to be inaugurated on December 1.
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Our journalists started to translate "motorway" with "motorway" and are not using "highway" anymore.
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Old November 15th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #2204
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Cernavoda-Constanta motorway to be open for traffic next summer

15 Noiembrie 2010

Transports and Infrastructure Minister Anca Boagiu on Friday said that the Cernavoda-Constanta (south-eastern Romania) section of the Bucharest-Constanta motorway would be open for traffic at the beginning of the 2011 summer season, the works going to be checked and signed for at the end of next year.

‘The works on this section will be checked and signed for at the end of next year, but the traffic will be opened at the beginning of the summer season. In the same period, we shall finalize the modernizing works of the Bucharest-Constanta railway, on the sections where we shall recover the delays registered until now,’ the Transports Minister said.

The builders of the two sections of the Cernavoda-Constanta motorway are the Colas French Company, for the 20 km Cernavoda-Medgidia section, and, for the 32 km Medgidia-Constanta section, the consortium made up of Anstaldi & Max Boegl companies.

The first contract, for the Cernavoda-Medgidia section, is worth 180 million euro, out of which the European Investments Bank (EIB) financed 71 percent (128 million euros) and 29 percent is Romania’s contribution (around 53 million euros).

The second contract, for the Medgidia-Cernavoda section, is worth 168 million euro, out of which 71 percent are EIB funds and 29 percent, Romania’s contribution (85 percent of this contribution coming from the EU). In this context, Romania’s contribution will be around 7 million euros. Both motorway sections have a 24 month finalizing deadline.

The modernizing works of the railway on the Bucharest-Constanta section grew difficult because of the lack of funds, which made the builders stop the rehabilitation works.

The Swietelsky-Wiebe-Takenaka partners group will modernize the Bucharest North-Baneasa and Fetesti-Constanta sections. The modernizing works of the Baneasa-Fundulea-Fetesti section are divided among several companies and the financing is also secured by the European Union, by facilitating the ISPA [Instrument for Structural Policies for pre-Accession]. The rehabilitation works on the Bucharest-Constanta railway, which would allow trains to run at 160 km/h, should have been finalized in the summer of 2010.
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Optimistic, but the new transportation minister is better off than what we've had so far. What the article doesn't say is that the minister said traffic will be opened only on 2 lanes of the motorway sectino in order to allow for the holiday traffic to take the motorway, and the other 2 lanes will be opened only by the end of the year.



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Green - operational
  • A1 Bucuresti - Pitesti
  • A2 Bucuresti - Cernavoda
  • A3 Campia Turzii - Gilau
Yellow - u/c, to be opened late this year
  • A1 Sibiu bypass
Red - u/c, to be opened in 2011 - 2012
  • A1 Arad bypass
  • A1 Arad - Timisoara
  • A2 Cernavoda - Constanta
  • A3 Bors - Surpaclu de Barcau
  • A3 Bucuresti - Ploiesti
  • A4 Constanta bypass
Light blue - Pan European IV corridor sections to be tendered late this year
  • A1 Arad - Nadlac
  • A1 Timisoara - Lugoj
  • A1 Lugoj - Deva
  • A1 Orastie - Sibiu
Dark blue - A1 Deva - Orastie motorway - awarded to Strabag

Other projects:

Brown - A3 Transilvania Motorway awarded to Bechtel (works on this sections haven't started yet)

Gray - A3 Comarnic - Brasov motorway (PPP project that failed; to be re-tendered next year)

Violet - A1 Sibiu - Pitesti: it might get EU money next year; nothing sure yet
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Old November 15th, 2010, 02:56 PM   #2205
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Mega bidding for motorways transport
Monday, November 15, 2010

The first segment of highway that will meet the new standards imposed by the Ministry of Transportation cost will be auctioned this month. Estimated total value: 1.327 billion euros.

Officials of the Ministry of Transport (MT) will held on the remaining days until the end of November, bids for the designation of sections of highway planners and executors for Nadlac-Arad, Timisoara-Lugoj Orastie-Sibiu, part of Corridor IV. Although all these works, according to the National Company of Motorways and National Roads (CNADNR), time of entry into the execution far exceeded, MT hopes to find enough bidders for carrying out design, technical drafting and execution of not less than 156,57 km of highway.

1.3 billion euro for 156 kilometers

To Capital Newspaper answering questions, general manager of CNADNR, Liviu Costache said that estimates of the three sections that will be auctioned are: 787 million for Orastie-Sibiu, 274 million for Nadlac-Arad and another 266 million for Tmişoara-Lugoj. According to the official, "the construction works will be completed within 30 months from the day of signing the contracts, time from which 6 months represents a period of design and 24 months a period of execution." Therefore, in September 2013 should be completed all 156.57 kilometers of highway.

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Old November 15th, 2010, 03:02 PM   #2206
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"... 30 months from the day of signing the contracts, time from which 6 months represents a period of design and 24 months a period of execution ..."

the only tricky thing is "6 months for design".
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Old November 15th, 2010, 03:13 PM   #2207
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Not really, it's a design-build contract apparantly. Not very uncommon.
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Old November 15th, 2010, 03:18 PM   #2208
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It seems that Sibiu motorway by-pass will certainly be opened for traffic on December 1st.
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Old November 15th, 2010, 03:18 PM   #2209
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Unless the crash barriers are not shiny enough for Mr President
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Old November 15th, 2010, 03:20 PM   #2210
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That's a statement from the contractors. But you are right, unless our PM has no other business to attend.
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Old November 15th, 2010, 07:26 PM   #2211
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And we also have to decide a date in which all the politicians from that area are available. They can't miss such a thing because they will lose the next elections if they do that (in their opinion).
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Old November 16th, 2010, 09:55 AM   #2212
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These days, inside the Transport Ministry there is a strong political demand for "ribbons to cut" on the 1st of December, "no matter what", meaning "ready or not". It's the best media coverage they can get and it's the best political gain they can get, by opening various motrways, roads and railways on the National Day.

So, although it's certain that Sibiu ring will not be ready on the 1st of December 2010, it is certain that there will be a opening ceremony. Among other so called "openings", we might see an "opening" also in the railway sector, on the Campina - Predeal line.

Again, of course, nothing is actually ready and the works are to continue past the so called "opening". But the leading politicians are really desperate to add "results" to their portofolio, regardless if the results are real or fake.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #2213
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I am sure the other politicians would've done the same thing, only they had nothing to inaugurate!Political PR is not rocket science.

BTW: Nice thing with the opening of Campina-Predeal. Are we going to skiing in just one hour this winter?
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Old November 16th, 2010, 11:31 AM   #2214
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Actually, the other politicians DID absolutelly ridiculous openings, such as the two little overpasses in Baneasa on DN1. They were small and insignificant and should have been opened without any official ceremony. Yet we had the PM Tariceanu and the Transport Ministry Orban being proud and silly next to the small bridges.

But the current politicians upgraded a notch, by opening unfinished works (Timisoara bypass, Sibiu bypass, Bucharest northern ring, Campina - Predeal railway) or by opening repeatedly the same thing (Timisoara bypass, opened officialy 3 times!!, Faurei test railway
which was opened twice). In this respect, no, "the other politicians" DID NOT such things.

But anyway, what's the point of this childish argument? Does it mean that we have to live forever with stupid leaders just on the assumption that the others MIGHT BE worse? Why can't we be normal a simply kick the ass of any leader as soon as he/she proves incompetent or corrupt?! At least statistically we would have the chance to get a really competent leader.

The reahabilitation of Campina - Predeal railway is at least 2 years away from completion. No chance to have an improvment in transit times before the Spring of 2012 and this presuming that the financing will be on time. And financing for Campina - Predeal railway is in danger, considering the budget constraints in 2011. An optimistic term for completion is 2013! The fact that we'll have another "ribbon cut" on the 1st December 2010, will not change anything. It will be just another lie of the current political leadership. Not the first and certainly not the last.

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Old November 16th, 2010, 05:34 PM   #2215
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Portugal has half the population of Romania and has over 40 individual motorways. Granted, some are very short, but I do think Romania will have at least 5.000 kilometers of motorways eventually. That may not be in 2015 or even 2025, but you gotta think ahead with such matters. The German or French motorway networks were built over more than 50 years, and are still incomplete.
I belive Portugal (not to mention Germany) have "other kind" of population density than Romania.

A motorway system with several motorways, could be enough to conect all major cities, and good conectivity between motorways, and with other countries.

Here is a map, that I belive would be enough for many years, a system of 10 motorways. (probably ready by 2030 )



Of course, you could add a few branches, but I don't know how would be worth economical.
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I belive Portugal (not to mention Germany) have "other kind" of population density than Romania.
Yes, concentrated along a narrow coastal strip. Which means Romania will need more long-distance motorways and expressways than Portugal, because Romania's population is more spread out. In western Europe, it is common that 100.000 + cities usually have 1 or 2 motorways at least.

Your map is a good proposal, though I would add more connecting motorways. Germany, which is a country that also has a population that is spread out throughout the country (albeit on a larger scale) also has its main motorway network (A1 - A9) making out 45% of the total motorway mileage (and 38% of the total motorway(like) network).
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Of course, you could add a few branches, but I don't know how would be worth economical.
Also a link Galati-Braila-Slobozia-Silistra will be surely needed in 7-10 years time. Traffic increased a lot since A2 was open to Drajna and the route is also used for international transport between Turkey and the former soviet countries. Also it links Galati-Braila agglomeration with Bucharest. When A2 will be opened all the way to Constanta, it will be used also as the fastest way from Moldova region to the seaside.

And a link between Cluj and Dej will be needed, between A3 and A8

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Your map is a good proposal, though I would add more connecting motorways. Germany, which is a country that also has a population that is spread out throughout the country (albeit on a larger scale) also has its main motorway network (A1 - A9) making out 45% of the total motorway mileage (and 38% of the total motorway(like) network).
Germany have a population of 81,757,600 people (almost 4 times bigger than Romania's 21,498,616 people) while the surface is "only" 357,021 km² (only ~50% more than Romania's 238,391 km²).

I don't say a lot of connecting motorways would not help, but it would be very expensive, and would only conect somme minor cities, also I had to conside the geography of the country, building a lot of motorways across the Carpatian Bow, is very expensive (we still have none yet ).

Even "My" A8, the section between Baia Mare and Suceava (could be extrended to Botosani) would be hard (expensive) to build, with hills in the first part, and the Carpatian mountain at the widest up to Suceava. and conect only several minor cities (all below 100k).

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Also a link Galati-Braila-Slobozia-Silistra will be surely needed in 7-10 years time. Traffic increased a lot since A2 was open to Drajna and the route is also used for international transport between Turkey and the former soviet countries. Also it links Galati-Braila agglomeration with Bucharest. When A2 will be opened all the way to Constanta, it will be used also as the fastest way from Moldova region to the seaside.
I belive that would be actually the motorway to be build, I doubt they will "venture" to build another bridge over Danube. "My" A4 extension, would be the fastest way (more or less) from Moldova region to the seaside. (also Bulgaria, Turkey).
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This is my idea of high standard routes through Romania in 2040. It includes both full motorways and expressways, especially for mountainous and less important transit routes.

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I belive that would be actually the motorway to be build, I doubt they will "venture" to build another bridge over Danube. "My" A4 extension, would be the fastest way (more or less) from Moldova region to the seaside. (also Bulgaria, Turkey).
I think a direct link between GL/BR and A2 is more probable than an extension of A4 over the Danube by bridge. At least in the closer future.
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