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Old November 29th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #2361
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If anyone has photos of the motorway Bucharest-Ploiesti (A3), post them here on this topic.

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Old November 29th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #2362
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Not very good pictures, from the section between Bucharest bypass and Moara Vlasiei:






















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Old November 29th, 2010, 09:54 PM   #2363
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@panda80, Thank you so much!
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Old November 30th, 2010, 10:55 AM   #2364
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Varna-Burgas is part of corridor VIII and Bulgaria is planning a motorway there. Unfortunately, Varna-RO border is planned as a 2x2 national road.
There's a confirmation today from the Road Company that Constanta-Varna was approved by the TEN-T commission following a request lodged by the current transportation minister to the TEN-T authority. They want to run the feasibility study and select a contractor next year and start works for the Constanta-Mangalia section in 2012.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 12:13 PM   #2365
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The National Road company has announced it will tender this week the following sections on Corridor IV:

Nadlac-Arad - 38,8 km - estimated value of EUR 274 million

Timisoara- Lugoj - 35,6 km - estimated value EUR 266 million

Orastie-Sibiu - 82 km - estimated value EUR 787 million

These are the sections marked in black on the map below:



Green - operational
  • A1 Bucuresti - Pitesti
  • A2 Bucuresti - Cernavoda
  • A3 Campia Turzii - Gilau
Red - u/c, to be opened in 2011 - 2012
  • A1 Arad bypass
  • A1 Arad - Timisoara
  • A2 Cernavoda - Constanta
  • A3 Bors - Surpaclu de Barcau
  • A3 Bucuresti - Ploiesti
  • A4 Constanta bypass
Light blue - Pan European IV corridor sections to be tendered late this year
  • A1 Arad - Nadlac
  • A1 Timisoara - Lugoj
  • A1 Lugoj - Deva (to be tendered next year)
  • A1 Orastie - Sibiu
Dark blue - A1 Deva - Orastie motorway - awarded to Strabag

Other projects:

Brown - A3 Transilvania Motorway awarded to Bechtel (works on this sections haven't started yet)

Gray - A3 Comarnic - Brasov motorway (PPP project that failed; to be re-tendered next year)

Violet - A1 Sibiu - Pitesti: it might be tendered next year.


So, all in al, next year Romania will have about 500 km of motorway U/C.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 12:52 PM   #2366
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There's a confirmation today from the Road Company that Constanta-Varna was approved by the TEN-T commission following a request lodged by the current transportation minister to the TEN-T authority. They want to run the feasibility study and select a contractor next year and start works for the Constanta-Mangalia section in 2012.
Good. That will be good for romanian tourism. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 03:07 PM   #2367
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Will you please tell me how many kilometers of highway can be used in Romania?

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Old November 30th, 2010, 05:55 PM   #2368
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You know, there is a Romanian sub-forum you can visit for this kind of inquiries. Please: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1291
You will find the answers by taking time and reading the posts.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 07:34 PM   #2369
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Will you please tell me how many kilometers of highway can be used in Romania?

Thank you very much!
Including Sibiu bypass will be aprox 330 km in use
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Old November 30th, 2010, 07:37 PM   #2370
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Good. That will be good for romanian tourism. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
for the romanian tourists and for the bulgarian tourism as well
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Old November 30th, 2010, 07:42 PM   #2371
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Tourism does not stop at the last motorway exit though - in fact, it just begins there. A good tourist infrastructure is much more than an excellent motorway network, you need decent campsites, vacation parks, hotels, beaches, supermarkets, bars, restaurants, facilities, etc.

The main problem for Romania (and many other central European nations) is that many west European tourists will inevitably compare it with long-established mass-tourist countries like France, Spain or Germany. Though Romania has a wide range of tourist potential (cities, beaches, nature, mountains), accommodations and the general atmosphere need to be good as well, which is quite hard to achieve, especially since the demands and expectations of western European tourists are quite high.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 08:59 PM   #2372
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Tomorrow will be the grand opening of the 17 km of Sibiu motorway by-ass and the 20 km of northern Bucharest would-be expressway.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 09:33 PM   #2373
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Good. That will be good for romanian tourism. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
It'll be good for tourism for both Romania and Bulgaria indeed. There's a lot of weekend traffic to the seaside from Bucharest in July and August (as much as 100.000 people mainly from Bucharest drive to the seaside on July and August weekends) and it could increase even more (dramaticaly) once there is a complete motorway. I refused many opportunities to go to the seaside on weekends because of the traffic and the long ques on the existing route.

But, IMO, on top of that, once C IV will be finished, it will atract many Polish and other foreign tourists from Eastern Europe. The Polish tourists have started to return to the Black Sea seaside. I get to see more and more Polish cars and caravans on A2 and A1 during the summer and I think once C IV section in Romania will be ready, more will come.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 09:49 PM   #2374
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Tourism does not stop at the last motorway exit though - in fact, it just begins there. A good tourist infrastructure is much more than an excellent motorway network, you need decent campsites, vacation parks, hotels, beaches, supermarkets, bars, restaurants, facilities, etc.

The main problem for Romania (and many other central European nations) is that many west European tourists will inevitably compare it with long-established mass-tourist countries like France, Spain or Germany. Though Romania has a wide range of tourist potential (cities, beaches, nature, mountains), accommodations and the general atmosphere need to be good as well, which is quite hard to achieve, especially since the demands and expectations of western European tourists are quite high.
The seaside accomodations in Romania are pretty good*, but they are as if not more expensive than in Turkey or Greece, not to mention Bulgaria. Many foreign tourists get to compare various tourist packages and naturaly pick the cheaper.

(*for example, from my own experience, they are better than in Barcelona and the food is definitelly much, much better - and cheaper).

BTW: I was looking over New Year's Eve vacations and I was not surprised to see vacations in Vienna are cheaper than in Romania's mountains, and I might try spending New Year's Eve in Vienna.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:36 PM   #2375
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BTW: I was looking over New Year's Eve vacations and I was not surprised to see vacations in Vienna are cheaper than in Romania's mountains, and I might try spending New Year's Eve in Vienna.
That's the Romanian mentality, sadly: better to try to rip off the few tourists that do come while offering them a mediocre service, than to fill up the hotel.

We don't have the Alps, we don't have Mt. Olympus near our top sea resort (just a nice refinery), yet our prices are higher than in the countries in which you are certain to have a good time.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:56 PM   #2376
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That's the Romanian mentality, sadly: better to try to rip off the few tourists that do come while offering them a mediocre service, than to fill up the hotel.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. The services are very good in the mountains, yet the demand is extremely high, and so are the prices. It's not about mentality, it's pure economics at stake: a higher demand drives prices up. Try to book a vacation in the Romanian mountains now and you'll certainly not find a free spot anymore. Same goes for the seaside. In July and August occupancy is 100%, including this "crisis" year. I wonder if you ever went into the mountains, cause I go twice a year, and I have always had good service, irrespective of the accommodation I chose.

As for Greece, the touristic capacities were not filled this summer for example, and the prices went a lot down, also due to the numerous and erratic strikes there. Some friends of mine totally ruined their prepaid vacation due to the strikes of the border police.

Along the same lines of the economic argument, the same accommodation capacities on the Romanian seaside in September costs 5-6 times less than in August. But there are hardly more than say 10% of the tourists in August.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:56 PM   #2377
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Arad Bypass...

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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:57 PM   #2378
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Tomorrow will be the grand opening of the 17 km of Sibiu motorway by-ass and the 20 km of northern Bucharest would-be expressway.
Any news to confirm this?
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Any news to confirm this?
The Bucharest northern ring was opened today officially, and later on today (about 16:00) there will be the opening of the Sibiu by-pass.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 02:15 PM   #2380
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Well the 20 km Bucharest ring road 2 -> 4 lanes upgrade can't be inaugurated because it isn't finished. I saw the PM this morning at a new bridge on this road which also isn't fully finished saying something about the delays because this sector should have been completed a year ago.
As for Sibiu, i heard it's snowing..
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