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Old December 5th, 2010, 12:30 AM   #2421
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Old December 6th, 2010, 11:32 AM   #2422
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Indeed it's missing something
But it's better like this.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 09:53 PM   #2423
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OK. Some recent updates from our transportation minister.


By 2012, there will be 241 km of motorway opened on A1, A3 and A4 (some of which will be opened next year):

Suplacu de Barcău-Borş (64 km) (A3)
Bucharest-Ploiesti (61 km) (A3)
Timisoara-Arad, incl.Arad by-pass (44 km) (A1)
Cernavodă-Constanţa (50 km) (A1)
Constanta by-pass (22 km) (A4)




The rest of sections on A1 (except Sibiu-Pitesti) will be U/C next year (286 km more to be completed by 2014) .


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Old December 8th, 2010, 07:17 PM   #2424
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Cernavodă-Constanţa is A2
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Old December 8th, 2010, 10:05 PM   #2425
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Google includes Romania in Street View

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Let's start with Transfăgărăşan One more
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Old December 9th, 2010, 12:34 PM   #2426
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Yeap! Cool stuff!
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Old December 9th, 2010, 02:02 PM   #2427
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It seems the EU Commission has accepted to finance another section of Pitesti-Sibiu motorway (20 km, in red on the map below) and the financing contract will be signed on the 15 of this month:



With some luck, works could start next year.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 04:23 PM   #2428
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With some luck, works could start next year.
Useless to say that it won't happen.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 07:13 PM   #2429
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there is one thing I do not understand.

you said the contract would be signed on the 15th.
now the question is why you are not so positive about construction works next year.

why is it going to take so much time (in my opinion)?

I thought the biggest issue was always to sign the contract - imagine all permissions you need to to be compliant with/produce/prepare before the contract.

of course there is another "delay" factor - the weather, but as long as we do not reach 1.0 on Kardashev scale we cannot do much about that.


this is not the first time I can see on Romanian forum you annouce the contract is just about to be signed, but realization is somehow "postponed".

are those contracts "design & build" ? if so, lately you have said a design part usually takes 6 months.

what is all about ?
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Old December 9th, 2010, 07:23 PM   #2430
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The Gov will sign only the financing agreement with the Commission on the 15. They still need to prepare the tender documentation and (possibly the design) and run the expropriations, run the tender etc.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 07:34 PM   #2431
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ok. next time I need to read posts more carefully - you wrote "financing contract", but I did not take it into consideration ...

so now you are at phase to face all paperwork. good luck.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 07:47 PM   #2432
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this is not the first time I can see on Romanian forum you annouce the contract is just about to be signed, but realization is somehow "postponed".
And unfortunately it won't be for the last time.

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The Gov will sign only the financing agreement with the Commission on the 15. They still need to prepare the tender documentation and (possibly the design) and run the expropriations, run the tender etc.
Don't forget to add the time to get all necessary permits and finally the construction permit, which usually can take more than one year, and that is possible only if you have the final design. If not...
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Old December 9th, 2010, 07:52 PM   #2433
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i had no idea that the Cernavoda bridge was tolled! i have found it out today on streetview. what is the fee?
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Old December 9th, 2010, 08:06 PM   #2434
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i had no idea that the Cernavoda bridge was tolled! i have found it out today on streetview. what is the fee?
I think 12 RON, something like 2,8 euros.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 08:24 PM   #2435
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It used to be 10 RON and everything was fine because everybody had a 10 RON banknote in the wallet, but last summer after they raised the toll to 12 RON there were huge queues (especially during week-ends).
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Old December 9th, 2010, 10:21 PM   #2436
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It used to be 10 RON and everything was fine because everybody had a 10 RON banknote in the wallet, but last summer after they raised the toll to 12 RON there were huge queues (especially during week-ends).
shit,
nobody told them there is no 12 RON banknote ...
no wait,
do not tell them anything otherwise they will raise it to 20 RON
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Old December 11th, 2010, 04:01 PM   #2437
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shit,
nobody told them there is no 12 RON banknote ...
no wait,
do not tell them anything otherwise they will raise it to 20 RON
We have no 20 RON banknote either. We have 50 RON banknote though...
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Old December 11th, 2010, 05:10 PM   #2438
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I was very surprised that after the denomination in Romania they didn't introduce 1 leu and 2 lei coins, preferably bi-metallic, in line with the euro coins (and, for example, as in Hungary, where there are bi-metallic 100- and 200-forint coins). In this case it would be much easier to pay the toll
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Old December 12th, 2010, 08:44 AM   #2439
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Yeah, but we have plastic money which I love!
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Old December 12th, 2010, 08:51 AM   #2440
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Some updates on C IV:

Works on Deva-Orastie (in red: 33 km) should start this month, while Lugoj-Deva (in pink: 100 km) and Nadlac-Arad (in blue: 39 km) have just been tendered, with works to start in early spring (if noone challenges the tender results again):



Rest of colours:

Motorway sections to be opened by 2012 (241 km on A1, A3 and A4):
Suplacu de Barcău-Borş (64 km) (A3)
Bucharest-Ploiesti (61 km) (A3)
Timisoara-Arad, incl.Arad by-pass (44 km) (A1)
Cernavodă-Constanţa (50 km) (A2)
Constanta by-pass (22 km) (A4)



Remaining to be tendered this year.


Green: motorways in use.
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