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Old April 24th, 2011, 08:03 PM   #2721
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Done!

Thank you bogdymol! I hope you are going to do the updates as well, on this map.
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Old April 24th, 2011, 08:51 PM   #2722
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No, as far as we know. Anyways, half of the motorways on that map (thank you bogdymol!) are still SF, as in science-fiction. There will be no motorway to Ukraine in the predictable future. And probably no motorway to Moldova in the near future.
For Tg Mures-Albita, the feasibility study is now almost completed, so they could initiate tendering procedures this year.
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Old April 24th, 2011, 11:35 PM   #2723
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For Tg Mures-Albita, the feasibility study is now almost completed, so they could initiate tendering procedures this year.
It is completed. But you're joking, right? I've seen the terrain. I mean I have literally seen it. I was somehow involved in the feasibility study. There are tunnels & viaducts 800m-1km long. Who's gonna give the money when we can't afford to continue Transylvania Motorway, which is already awarded to Bechtel?? It would be another useless investment started and very soon abandoned due to lack of funds.

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Old April 24th, 2011, 11:51 PM   #2724
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They should focus on Ploiesti -- Vaslui, which is part of Pan-European Corridor 9.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 12:28 PM   #2725
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They should focus on Ploiesti -- Vaslui, which is part of Pan-European Corridor 9.
No they shouldn't, A1 part of Pan-European Corridor 4 (Pitesti-Nadlac) and A3 (Bucuresti-Bors) are far more important than CIX Ploiesti-Vaslui.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 12:47 PM   #2726
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No they shouldn't, A1 part of Pan-European Corridor 4 (Pitesti-Nadlac) and A3 (Bucuresti-Bors) are far more important than CIX Ploiesti-Vaslui.
For someone from Cluj, maybe . But for someone from Focşani or Iaşi CIX can be a priority, even as stupid as it has been drawn. Plus, it can be build using European funds.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 03:38 PM   #2727
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A3 (Bucuresti-Bors)
It makes more sense to build all highways for which Romania can get EU funds in the first place. Instead of building 10 km of A3, they can build 20+ km on Corridor IX. It's plain stupid to waste the limited national funds while Romania doesn't have enough money to cofinance the projects supported by the EU... which in turn leads to losing the EU money too.

For A3 they must find a PPP solution. While Tg Mures-Iasi is too far away (we'll probably be using electric cars by then).
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Old April 25th, 2011, 08:21 PM   #2728
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... While Tg Mures-Iasi is too far away (we'll probably be using electric cars by then).
what is the distance (Tg M - Iasi) ?
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Old April 25th, 2011, 08:59 PM   #2729
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what is the distance (Tg M - Iasi) ?
on the future highway 307...310km
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Old April 25th, 2011, 10:24 PM   #2730
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It is completed. But you're joking, right? I've seen the terrain. I mean I have literally seen it. I was somehow involved in the feasibility study. There are tunnels & viaducts 800m-1km long. Who's gonna give the money when we can't afford to continue Transylvania Motorway, which is already awarded to Bechtel?? It would be another useless investment started and very soon abandoned due to lack of funds
I know the terrain is very difficult but this motorway will also be PPP, so not financed from the national budget. I remember they said they'll try to tender the PPP later this year.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #2731
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Done!

bogdymol, just a slight correction: in blue should be contracted motorways.

That means Transilvania Motorway should be all in blue.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 10:59 PM   #2732
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bogdymol, just a slight correction: in blue should be contracted motorways.
Were the contracts signed? I guess not yet...
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Old April 26th, 2011, 07:46 AM   #2733
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Yeah, but they are not in tendering procedure either. The winners were designated and I haven't heard of any contestations against that. That means the tendering procedure is over and contracting is the last and next step.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 09:51 AM   #2734
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Yeah, but they are not in tendering procedure either. The winners were designated and I haven't heard of any contestations against that. That means the tendering procedure is over and contracting is the last and next step.
After the contracts will be signed I promise that I'll edit the map
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Romanian Senate Adopts Mandatory Snow Tire Bill


Romania's Senate on Tuesday adopted the government emergency ordinance making snow tires mandatory during the winter.

Drivers are required to use snow tires from November 1 until March 1, or face fines between 2,500 and 4,000 lei (EUR613-EUR981) and lose their car registration certificate. In addition to snow tires, trucks weighing more than 3.5 tons and people carriers with more than 9 seats must be equipped with snow chains.

The bill for the adoption of Government Emergency Ordinance 5/2011 will need to be adopted by the Chamber of Deputies before taking effect.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 05:09 PM   #2736
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The Government has published today the list of PPP infrastructure projects where private investors will be sought in the coming period:
  • Comarnic-Braşov (A3) – 55 km
  • Sibiu - Piteşti (A1) - 116 km
  • Ploieşti - Buzău - Focşani (A4) - 133 km
  • Bucharest Ring (A0) - 100 km
  • Tg Mureş - Iaşi - Ungheni (A5) - 307 km
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Old April 27th, 2011, 06:38 PM   #2737
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^ Yeah, right.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 10:01 PM   #2738
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For someone from Cluj, maybe . But for someone from Focşani or Iaşi CIX can be a priority, even as stupid as it has been drawn. Plus, it can be build using European funds.
No, we are talking about national overall interest. Those two motorways are by far the most important arteries, by level of traffic values and the size of the population served (about 11 million - 16 counties + Bucharest), not included the fact that they are two vital links with the western road system. So no, I don't find infrastructure in Moldova in desperate need for a motorway - with few city bypasses the road network should be sufficient for the next decade.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 10:14 PM   #2739
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Were the contracts signed? I guess not yet...
and a3, moara vlasiei-ploiesti, should be orange too...
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Old April 27th, 2011, 10:25 PM   #2740
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Most of the East European countries are building FIRST the highways connecting them to Western Europe.
So does Romania.

It is not fair, of course.
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