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Old October 28th, 2011, 12:31 AM   #3641
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Maybe because the eurocorridor goes northbound, as does the E79 Calafat-Craiova and not in western direction...
Let me rephrase it then: why does the corridor do such a detour through Craiova when the entire purpose of it is to connect Sofia/Bulgaria/Greece/Turkey to the western european highway system?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 12:33 AM   #3642
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There is probably very little traffic that would drive to Sofia via western Romania. Serbia is faster and shorter. The rest of Bulgaria is accessible via Bucharest. I suspect internal traffic to and from Craiova has priority over international traffic from Timisoara to Sofia. And I think an east-west corridor from Beograd to Bucharest via Craiova is also more important.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 12:44 AM   #3643
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There is probably very little traffic that would drive to Sofia via western Romania. Serbia is faster and shorter. The rest of Bulgaria is accessible via Bucharest. I suspect internal traffic to and from Craiova has priority over international traffic from Timisoara to Sofia. And I think an east-west corridor from Beograd to Bucharest via Craiova is also more important.
If this would be true, then what would be the purpose of this portion of the corridor? And since this is called a "pan-european" corridor the importance should be for international traffic, right? IMHO the entire purpose of it is to have an alternative route besides Serbia for internal EU transports. With this in mind, making everyone detour trough Craiova seems just plain stupid to me.
Not that I have anything against connecting Craiova to it, but that could be fixed like in the above map I've put.

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Old October 28th, 2011, 12:44 AM   #3644
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I meant the corridor doesn't make a detour. It continues to the north after Craiova too and doesn't go in direction to Timisoara.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_route_E79
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Old October 28th, 2011, 12:48 AM   #3645
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I meant the corridor doesn't make a detour. It continues to the north after Craiova too and doesn't go in direction to Timisoara.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_route_E79
But the corridor makes the detour. I wasn't talking about the european route.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 07:17 AM   #3646
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If this would be true, then what would be the purpose of this portion of the corridor? And since this is called a "pan-european" corridor the importance should be for international traffic, right? IMHO the entire purpose of it is to have an alternative route besides Serbia for internal EU transports. With this in mind, making everyone detour trough Craiova seems just plain stupid to me.
Not that I have anything against connecting Craiova to it, but that could be fixed like in the above map I've put.
The north branch of C IV makes an even longer detour through Sibiu, when it was initially meant directly from Timisoara to Drobeta and Calafat. The purpose was to obviously catch some more important cities under its grip. Pan EU Corridors are made not only for the EU but also for the host country.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 07:24 AM   #3647
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You are completely right. But I give you a strong advice: don't go on DN56 Calafat-Craiova, use DN56A Calafat-Turnu Severin instead. It's a great road, recently rehabilitated, almost empty, and the route through DN56A is significantly shorter. From Turnu Severin they finally rehabilitated the road and made some bypasses (some are still under construction though): Turnu Severin, Mehadia, Domaşnea (still u/c), Caransebeş (still u/c), Lugoj, Timişoara. A bypass is also planned for Plugova, but they don't have enough money yet for it, as it needs a tunnel.
Isn't this enough of a reason for MT to postpone Lugoj-Drobeta-Calafat motorway and switch to other priorities starting 2014 (such as C IX)?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 07:28 AM   #3648
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I don't think it's under construction, but maybe media is talking about the small remaining stretch of section 2b, the bridge over river Someş near Gilău, abandoned at probably 10-30% and which can be noted - like Suplacu de Barcău-Borş - as under construction.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 07:48 AM   #3649
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According to a media report, Gilau-Nadaselu 8.7 km (part of A3) will be put up for tender next week, at a price of EUR 4.8 million/km.

Also, Campia Turzii-Iernut 34 km (part of A3) ill be put for tender by the end of year.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 07:58 AM   #3650
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Bucharest-Ploiesti motorway works:

2x3 section visible:


Cable stayed bridge at Barcanesti:






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Old October 28th, 2011, 08:01 AM   #3651
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Old October 28th, 2011, 08:13 AM   #3652
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It's obviously more feasible for next year in spring.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 08:22 AM   #3653
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BTW: works for the upgrade to 2x2 of all remaining sections (~ 87 km) of Bucharest's ring will start next year in spring (the last 2 sections were awarded this month):




It's also reported that Bucharest's motorway - south section (48 km) - is targeted by 2 Chinese companies for a PPP: Dalian International Holdings and China Communications Construction Company

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Two neat videos...

Bucharest-Belgrade in five minutes or less..

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Old October 28th, 2011, 10:58 AM   #3655
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Bucharest-Ploiesti motorway works:

2x3 section visible:

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2x3 where ?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 11:13 AM   #3656
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Bucharest ring - Moara Vlasiei section, most probably.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 04:34 PM   #3657
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Two neat videos...

Bucharest-Belgrade in five minutes or less..

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Old October 29th, 2011, 02:35 PM   #3658
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Any new plans for widening or turning parts of the road from Calafat or Craiova to this direction into an expressway or at least for building ring roads around the multiple villages on the road?
AFAIK, the RO gvt issued a feasibility study on Calafat-Lugoj motorway that would be ready in the end of next year. I am sure I posted the news in the Bulgarian forum...
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Old October 29th, 2011, 03:42 PM   #3659
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AFAIK, the RO gvt issued a feasibility study on Calafat-Lugoj motorway that would be ready in the end of next year. I am sure I posted the news in the Bulgarian forum...
Yeah, see here, row no. 32.
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