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Old November 4th, 2011, 03:53 PM   #3681
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I read the last 5 pages of this thread but couldn't look for what I was looking for :
When can we expect Bucharest to be linked to the rest of Europe, by highway only ?
I guess it would be through the A3 to the Hungarian border, right ?
So, in your opinion, when should we expect a Budapest-Bucharest highway ?
Probably the first 'motorway only' link between Budapest and Bucharest will be on A1. Now there are some sections U/C, between Sibiu and the hungarian border. The problem here are the 116 km link between Pitesti and Sibiu, passing through the Carpathians, where the cost of the motorway is pretty high (around 3 billion euros) and a source of financing those works wasn't found. A PPP funding formula was proposed. A realistic deadline for the whole motorway to be finished is somewhere between 2018-2020.

PS. Highway can mean any road outside cities.
Probably you were refering to a motorway connection.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 05:04 PM   #3682
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You need all your "flat" pieces of Land to be connected with motorway.This will encourage overseas investors,but they must know how much it will cost(considering time delays)on the Logistics operation.The more you reduce the transport costs,the more profitable the business will be.3 obvious flat motorways you need are:-

1.Bucharest-Craiova-Calafat-Vidin Sofia(connecting capitals)
2.Bucharest-Siret-Ukraine(heading North to Ukraine)
3.Bucharest-Moldova.(then connect to Odessa)

These can be done cheaply and quickly,with help from EEC.A motorway is like a blood vessel in your body.Everything must be interconnected or it will eventually die.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 07:00 PM   #3683
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Timisoara-Belgrade highway, on the government table

Source: Money.ro | Published: November 4, 2011, 5:39 p.m. | Updated: November 4, 2011, 5:56 p.m.


PM Emil Boc has met with his Serbian counterpart Mirko Cvetkovic, and among the topics of discussion featured construction of a highway between the two countries.

"I instructed ministries to explore this opportunity. Transport Minister will pay a visit to Serbia in the period ahead, "said Boc.

The idea of ​​a highway Belgrade-Timisoara is older, Bozidar Delic Serbian Deputy making a proposal to that effect just last year. And then, Boc said he welcomed the proposal and the proposal will be submitted to the Serbian Government. Three years ago, to convey the idea of ​​a regional highway, linking north eastern Serbia, south-western Romania and Hungary, the Serbian proposal advanced. But talks have not progressed.

Route road Timisoara-Belgrade-Jimbolia has a length of 178 kilometers. If you follow this route highway (which is not in a straight line), the Romanian side would have to build around 50 km, after a rough estimate. At a cost of 3.8 million per km, in the lowland area, according to the actual cost of the Ministry of Transportation standards, this piece of highway should cost about 190 million euros.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 08:48 PM   #3684
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@panda80 : Thank you, pal. And indeed I meant motorway.

2018 seems like a long time to wait, do you think this can hinder Romania's economic growth to stay "isolated" from the main EU motorway network?
I understand most efforts at the moment are going into linking domestic cities, but hopefully this does not limit trade with the other EU states.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 08:58 PM   #3685
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2018 is an extreme timing, it might be completed earlier under optimal conditions, but given the prolonged crisis, one never knows...but these delays definitelly cause economic issues. However the current government is a lot better than the previous ones in driving forward the motorway projects, albeit there is indeed room for improvement. I am though a bit more optimistic from this POV.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #3686
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2018 sounds far away, but it already starts in 6 years and 2 months. In retrospective, the difference between 1956 or 1962 doesn't sound very big either. An opening in 2018 means construction will have to commence by 2015-2016 at the latest, leaving just over 3 years to get all paperwork and funding done.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 02:03 AM   #3687
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E 578: Gheorgheni - Toplita - Reghin
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Old November 5th, 2011, 06:13 AM   #3688
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Romania To Open 65 Km-Long Transylvania Highway Section In Nov 2012
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The 65 km-long Suplacu de Barcau-Bors section of the Transylvania Highway might be open for traffic in November next year, but the project's final acceptance is scheduled for August 30, 2013, according to a government document.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 09:39 AM   #3689
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E 578: Gheorgheni - Toplita - Reghin
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nice pictures.finally something is moving in the right direction in our country
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Old November 5th, 2011, 10:06 AM   #3690
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Very good quality road and stunning views! Thanks nebunul for the link!
That should make a very nice drive and vacation time!
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Old November 5th, 2011, 12:27 PM   #3691
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But it would have even been even better as 4 lanes. With the "lost" money.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 05:45 PM   #3692
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Some blurry pics of the works for the western stretch of A1 - Nădlac-Arad Lot II. Pictures taken near the interchange with Arad Bypass motorway, also part of A1:





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Old November 5th, 2011, 05:47 PM   #3693
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Bypass Arad

Pictures of Arad Bypass motorway:

- asphalt works at km 10+200:



- the new bridge over river Mureş:



- view around km 11+800, at interchange IC4 with main road DN69:



- overpass at km 12+036, part of interchange IC4:





- embankment made of reinforced earth at km 6+450:

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Old November 5th, 2011, 11:26 PM   #3694
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Let's try to anticipate the openings for this year and the coming one:

2011
A1: Timisoara-Arad - 35 km
A1: Arad by-pass - 12 km
A2: Murfatlar-Constanta - 15 km
A3: 0 km
A4: Valul lui Traian-Agigea: 11 km

Total openings 2011: 73 km
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Total motorway end 2011: 400 km



2012
A1: 0 km?
A2: Cernavoda-Medgidia - 20 km
A2: Medgidia-Murfatlar - 16 km
A2: Cernavoda-Medgidia - 20 km
A3: Bucharest Ring-Ploiesti - 55 km
A3: Bucharest-Bucharest Ring - 7 km
A3: Suplacu-Bors - 65 km
A4: Ovidiu-Valul lui Traian - 11 km

Total openings 2012: 194 km
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Total motorway end 2012: 563 km
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Old November 5th, 2011, 11:30 PM   #3695
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Nice photos. I hope they build new viaducts with an additional lane in mind. It may sound far-fetched now, but if you want to widen a motorway in 2040 it's much cheaper. The Dutch are currently thanking the 1960's engineers on their knees for providing a space reservation. And in the 1960's many Dutch motorways did not exceed 20.000 vehicles per day either.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 11:32 PM   #3696
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Nice photos. I hope they build new viaducts with an additional lane in mind. It may sound far-fetched now, but if you want to widen a motorway in 2040 it's much cheaper. The Dutch are currently thanking the 1960's engineers on their knees for providing a space reservation. And in the 1960's many Dutch motorways did not exceed 20.000 vehicles per day either.
The Romanian motorway standard states that the viaducts / short bridges shall be built in such a way that they can have an additional lane instead of the hard shoulder. I've noticed that on Arad-Timisoara and Arad bypass motorways the width is the same on all sections.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #3697
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OK, so someone whispered some amendments:

2011
A1: Timisoara-Arad - 35 km
A1: Arad by-pass - 12 km (moved to 2012)
A2: Murfatlar-Constanta - 15 km
A3: 0 km
A4: Valul lui Traian-Agigea: 11 km

Total openings 2011: 61 km
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Total motorway end 2011: 388km



2012
A1: Arad bypass - 12 km
A1: Orastie-Simeria - 15 km
A2: Cernavoda-Medgidia - 20 km
A2: Medgidia-Murfatlar - 16 km
A3: Bucharest Ring-Ploiesti - 55 km
A3: Bucharest-Bucharest Ring - 7 km
A3: Suplacu-Bors - 65 km
A4: Ovidiu-Valul lui Traian - 11 km

Total openings 2012: 211 km
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Total motorway end 2012: 570 km
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Cernavoda - Medgidia is still written 2 times there. I know, a motorway is like 2 paralel roads, but still

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fixed, yes.
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Bucharest-Ploiesti Highway To Open For Traffic Next Spring - PM

Romanian Prime Minister Emil Boc said Saturday the 62-kilometer highway linking capital Bucharest to Ploiesti will be open for traffic next spring at the latest.

"Basically, the highway will be finished this December except for a very important bridge that will take longer," said Boc, adding the road will be open for traffic in April 2012 at the latest.
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