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Old July 3rd, 2012, 09:54 AM   #4681
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You've got a weird logic by our new Gov standards.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 10:23 AM   #4682
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The Bulgarians are planning such a motorway (of course it's not going to happen over night).
The road is crowded in the summer and also very dangerous given lots of entries to the resorts where you need to take a left.
As a modern railway would be needed to Mangalia, also a highway would be good for Vama....
(also take into consideration that this would not happen over night and traffic values will increase there in the next years, so planning for a highway would be the right thing to do)
For the moment, there is relevant traffic only for 2 months/year (for the summer season). For the rest of the year, the road is almost empty because there is very little freight traffic (as opposed to A2 Constanta-Bucharest which generates big freight traffic). The tourism traffic 2 months/year does not warrant a motorway unless connections with CIX and further with Turkey are made. In my opinion, such a motorway will not be done in Romania or Bulgaria earlier the 2020s, for these reasons and other (such as lack of EU/other financing).
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 12:18 PM   #4683
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For the moment, there is relevant traffic only for 2 months/year (for the summer season). For the rest of the year, the road is almost empty because there is very little freight traffic (as opposed to A2 Constanta-Bucharest which generates big freight traffic). The tourism traffic 2 months/year does not warrant a motorway unless connections with CIX and further with Turkey are made. In my opinion, such a motorway will not be done in Romania or Bulgaria earlier the 2020s, for these reasons and other (such as lack of EU/other financing).
Indeed, sounds like a good and realistic dead-line
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 12:20 PM   #4684
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I'm almost sure it's payback time with the developers.....
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 07:06 PM   #4685
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Old July 4th, 2012, 12:46 PM   #4686
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Romania, E85 road, today:









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Old July 4th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #4687
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Romania, E75 road, today:
You probably meant E85, as E75 doesn't cross the romanian territory.
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That's going to make a caffee by the A3 motorway near Ploiesti.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #4691
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Here are some of the pictures I took yesterday at the two exits on the A3 Bucharest Ring - Ploiesti sector.

As mentioned before, despite the fact that the opening was postponed for the 1st of August, the motorway is complete. Only the exits are still under construction. But that wouldn't have impeached on the opening for direct traffic between Bucharest and Ploiesti. Still, we got that unexpected change of plans, which is even unusual for Romanian motorways.

Most of out motorways sections were opened for traffic as soon as the main tarmac was complete, even before crash-barriers, exits, rest areas etc. Yet here we have a quite complete motorway, out of which some sections were complete more then half a year ago, but not yet opened for public.

While on the other hand, as other forum members previously shown, a section of A2 which in a very incipient state of construction is announced to be opened half profile within 2 weeks. That probably is most likely NOT to happen.

But back on the A3 Bucharest Ring - Ploiesti, here are the pictures of yesterday.

At first the Exit Moara Vlasiei (km 26). This exist did not existed in the original plan, which included only a regular overpass here for a local road. But later the overpass was converted to an exit. However, the "fit" is not the best.

This exit also marks the end of the 3 lanes sector from Bucharest and the begining of the 2 lanes sector towards Ploiesti. So note also the strage solution of merging lanes 1 and 2 into lane 1, rather then merging 2 and 3 into lane 2, thus creating a traffic conflict between slow lorries / buses and fast cars.





Due to the fact that the exit was added at a later stage into the project, the shape of the exit is not standard and the presumable roundabout at one end of the overpass is more likely to be exclusively for cars, because lorries and buses wouldn't fit.





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Old July 4th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #4693
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And here's Snagov exit (km 31). That's the only exit that was originally planed. The work still goes on at the connection roads. Also, the constructor base located here will be replaced by a maintenance center for the motorway, for which they prepare a connecting road.



















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Old July 4th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #4694
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Old July 4th, 2012, 09:27 PM   #4695
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Snagov Exit (km 31)

View towards Ploiesti.








View towards Bucharest.

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Old July 4th, 2012, 09:38 PM   #4696
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Hmm, Romanian road design could use some better professionals. 2 exits on a 60 kilometer motorway isn't much.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 11:32 PM   #4697
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Indeed the exists are too few. But then again, so they are on the other opened motorways in Romania, where the average distance between exists is ~32 km. The only exception is the "old" A1 Bucuresti - Pitesti which has an exist almost at every overpass (every 5-10 km).

But talking about the A3 Bucuresti - Ploiesti, the situation is the following. The stretch to be opened at the end of this month is 55 km long (km 13 - km 68). The whole motorway Bucharest - Ploiesti will have a total length of 60.5 km (km 7+500 - km 68). That's the motoway part, because other then that, the construction includes 1 km of connection road in Bucharest and 500m of connection road at the Ploiesti end.

The planned exits and they're opening dates, except the end ones and including those to be opened at the 1st of August, are:
1. Km 13 - Bucharest Ring Road - 01.08.2012
2. Km 19 - Dimieni / Bucharest Henry Coanda Airport - unknown date. It has to do with the planed extension of the airport sometime in the future. So it could be years from now.
2. Km 26 - Moara Vlasiei - 01.08.2012
3. Km 31 - Snagov - 01.08.2012
4. Km 43 - Gherghita - Unknown date. It was included in the original plan, but later it was removed. Currently it is strongly requested by the Prahova County. So it could be within 1-2 years.
5. Km 54 - Dumbrava interchange - Unknown date. That is the future start of the motorway towards Focsani - Albita - Chisinau (MD) sometime in the next 5-7 years.
6. Km 63 - Ghighiu - Unknown date. It would provide a direct connection to the Ploiesti East Ring Road and from there towards Buzau or the Cheia Pass (DN1A)

So, the plan has enough exits. But for now only three of them are to be opened.

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This exit also marks the end of the 3 lanes sector from Bucharest and the begining of the 2 lanes sector towards Ploiesti. So note also the strage solution of merging lanes 1 and 2 into lane 1, rather then merging 2 and 3 into lane 2, thus creating a traffic conflict between slow lorries / buses and fast cars.
Quite a stupid constructive solution it you ask me. It's going to be a very dangerous bottle-neck there, as it is in Bucharest the entry to the Ikea and Baneasa Mall, for those who know the area. Fast cars from lanes 2,3,4 are trying to get to the first lane and cars from lane 1 are trying to speed up towards Ploiesti....
Should be interesting after the opening.....
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Old July 5th, 2012, 11:05 AM   #4699
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Indeed the exists are too few. But then again, so they are on the other opened motorways in Romania, where the average distance between exists is ~32 km. The only exception is the "old" A1 Bucuresti - Pitesti which has an exist almost at every overpass (every 5-10 km).

But talking about the A3 Bucuresti - Ploiesti, the situation is the following. The stretch to be opened at the end of this month is 55 km long (km 13 - km 68). The whole motorway Bucharest - Ploiesti will have a total length of 60.5 km (km 7+500 - km 68). That's the motoway part, because other then that, the construction includes 1 km of connection road in Bucharest and 500m of connection road at the Ploiesti end.

The planned exits and they're opening dates, except the end ones and including those to be opened at the 1st of August, are:
1. Km 13 - Bucharest Ring Road - 01.08.2012
2. Km 19 - Dimieni / Bucharest Henry Coanda Airport - unknown date. It has to do with the planed extension of the airport sometime in the future. So it could be years from now.
2. Km 26 - Moara Vlasiei - 01.08.2012
3. Km 31 - Snagov - 01.08.2012
4. Km 43 - Gherghita - Unknown date. It was included in the original plan, but later it was removed. Currently it is strongly requested by the Prahova County. So it could be within 1-2 years.
5. Km 54 - Dumbrava interchange - Unknown date. That is the future start of the motorway towards Focsani - Albita - Chisinau (MD) sometime in the next 5-7 years.
6. Km 63 - Ghighiu - Unknown date. It would provide a direct connection to the Ploiesti East Ring Road and from there towards Buzau or the Cheia Pass (DN1A)

So, the plan has enough exits. But for now only three of them are to be opened.
Number 5 is just a dream
Numbers 4 and 5 not so soon I'm afraid. Maybe if Prahova has funds for this but.....
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Old July 5th, 2012, 12:01 PM   #4700
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Why do they pave the median in Romania? In most of Europe this is not really a common practice except for workzone/emergency access and highway airstrips.
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