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Old July 15th, 2009, 06:05 PM   #481
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They are building a road/railbridge near Vidin if I'm correct.
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Old July 15th, 2009, 06:13 PM   #482
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PL vs. RO/BG reality

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They are building a road/railbridge near Vidin if I'm correct.

and my experience is whispering to my ear it will take ages as in Poland ... right ?
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Old July 15th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #483
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Well, no offense to our Romanian and Bulgarian friends, but the area is indeed in one of the most corrupt regions of the European Union, so funding and construction are issues.

Here's a wikipedia article about the bridge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calafat-Vidin_Bridge
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Old July 15th, 2009, 06:41 PM   #484
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well, I live in Poland and since 1989 main ammo of each government was highways construction. now I think there is a plan (almost doable) of covering Poland with modern transportation network by the end of 2012. I believe now if it comes construction there is NO corruption at all (public bidding system is quite complicated and should reveal all inconsistencies). the disadvantage of that is it takes ages. you as a bidder can really slow down the process if you loose the bid. you can go to the commercial court and protest it. in some cases the bids were cancelled and POlish Road Authorities had to do it from scratch.... well this goes beyond this thread, at least Romanian one.

the reason I am putting it to your attention is that once you fight over the corruption in Romania you will face the reality which is not velvet...

by the way let me tell you how I can recognize the progess in Poland. It was officialy annouced that for last two years there were signed construction contracts for 400 km of motorways and another 400 km of expressways. this brings me to the conclusion one day my kids would benefit of it. how about Romania ? how much are you advanced ?
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Old July 15th, 2009, 08:25 PM   #485
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many thanks for update.

last thing. how about Ruse border crossing ? am I going to expect long-lasting queue ? or you would go for another border crossing. is there any other RO/BG bridge crossing over Danube river worthy to try out ?
If there is queue at all, it will be fast moving - there is a one-stop control in force between Bg and RO...

For the bridges - there are plans for one or two more bridges (after the Vidin-Calafat one), but there is a general geo-politics question: these are not a priority on the Romanian side, since they do not want to shift the traffic going to Constata to land... they will lose their profit... Bulgaria, too has not got a first-class road infrastructure in its North - especially the north-south routes (I mean there are no motorways there - this is our fault).
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there is a general geo-politics question: these are not a priority on the Romanian side, since they do not want to shift the traffic going to Constata to land... they will lose their profit... Bulgaria, too has not got a first-class road infrastructure in its North - especially the north-south routes (I mean there are no motorways there - this is our fault).
looks like both governments forgot of tourism income.

my appeal to citziens of Romania & Bulgaria: send key-players of your politican arenas for holidays in Spain/Italy/Austria/Croatia/Greece to open their eyes how much money their governments make on tourists.

now seriously. I understand politicans are fully aware. the question is what makes them do that ?


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Old July 15th, 2009, 09:51 PM   #487
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by the way let me tell you how I can recognize the progess in Poland. It was officialy annouced that for last two years there were signed construction contracts for 400 km of motorways and another 400 km of expressways. this brings me to the conclusion one day my kids would benefit of it. how about Romania ? how much are you advanced ?
Romania is also progressing, but at a slower pace.This year 42km of motorway will be opened, next year 80-90km and in 2011 probably more than 150.Then, it's very possible to open between 100 and 200km every year till 2015.These are my previsions.
About the road in romania: DN7 is very good regarding road surface, better then hungarian 43 national road.the road has been rehabilitated recently, you may still experience some works, but in general the road is finished.I've been last week on the whole road from nadlac to bucharest.I don't think is better to travel by night because trucks are allowed to travel only by night.So you can experience the same traffic.But you can do the distance from nadlac to bucharest in 9 hours.
If you come from Poland you can also choose the following road:
poprad-miskolc-debrecen-oradea- cluj-napoca -sighisoara-brasov-bucharest road(DN1+DN13).
From cluj napoca to bucharest you can go also via alba iulia-sebes-sibiu-pitesti road(DN1+DN13).In both case the road condition is good, without potholes.
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Old July 15th, 2009, 10:43 PM   #488
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many thanks !

good luck with your motoway plan (the same goes to Poles, cause we are in the same awful conditions)
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Old July 18th, 2009, 12:21 PM   #489
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and my experience is whispering to my ear it will take ages as in Poland ... right ?
Well as Chris said, is U/C
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=38235740



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Southern Bukovina and honestly saying the roads were FULL of potholes.
Unfortunately you cannot get any worse than SBucovina roads I hope you took E85 afterwards


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Old July 18th, 2009, 06:42 PM   #490
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many thanks !

good luck with your motoway plan (the same goes to Poles, cause we are in the same awful conditions)
We are NOT in the same conditions!
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We are NOT in the same conditions!
Yes, unfortunately for us Poland is very much ahead in motorway construction, and it also has this 2x2 road linking Warsaw and Katowice. The big majority of our cities are still connected by jammed 2 laned roads.
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Old July 19th, 2009, 09:53 AM   #492
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Unfortunately you cannot get any worse than SBucovina roads I hope you took E85 afterwards
actually I do not remember E85, the really worst was in the time of my visit a road between Bicaz Gorges and Pink Lake (Lacu Rosu).
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yeah quite bad. btw potholes have been repaired lately; but still it needs to be fully rehabilitated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeR7U0ThJeM&feature=fvw

E85 (DN2) 450km) is quite OK but goes through many villages
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6V79fRwBdo
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PS Drive through Brasov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys07KQcWwg0
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it was on 07/2001 last time I was in Braşov/Kronstadt/Brassó. as I can recall road conditions from the past I am able to spot the difference !
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it was on 07/2001 last time I was in Braşov/Kronstadt/Brassó. as I can recall road conditions from the past I am able to spot the difference !
2009 is better ... I hope


Cheia - Brasov (1)


Cheia - Brasov (2)


Cheia - Brasov (3)
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that guy is driving too fast I am afraid, cannot notice road conditions

no, seriously, very nice route, perfect conditions, maybe to windy, but what to do - Carpatian mountains !
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that guy is driving too fast I am afraid, cannot notice road conditions!
I have to agree
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the videos are between maneciu and cheia on DN1A, and the chronological order is 2-1-3.In the third video, one can see the entrance in cheia.Indeed this road is very pictuoresque, and asphalt is very good.
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Newest section of A1 motorway. Watch in HD

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