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Old September 8th, 2012, 10:57 AM   #5001
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so, section nadlac-pecica opens in late 2013. what about the last kilometers til hungarian border? will it be closed until M43 is ready on the other side? sadly, M43 will not be ready before 2014/9 (without delay)...
Eurocopter missed it by mistake. Arad-Pecica will also open in 2013 - about 16 km which are U/C now by Alpine.

Actually, there is a (political) scandal now about the 22 km section of Nadlac-Pecica and works are very delayed so this section may not open in 2013.
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Old September 8th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #5002
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so, section nadlac-pecica opens in late 2013. what about the last kilometers til hungarian border? will it be closed until M43 is ready on the other side? sadly, M43 will not be ready before 2014/9 (without delay)...
There will be an interchange north of Nadlac connecting A1 with DN7, 2-3km before the border crossing.
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Old September 8th, 2012, 01:10 PM   #5003
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If the socialists stay in power, which is probable ATM, we will see a shift in priorities towards east - CIX, IMHO .
No we will not. The current government announced plans to proceed in developing the southern branch of CIV. It doesn't matter the nature of the government so much, we still need to develop effectively our motorway network and everybody knows that - this includes, CIV north and south, A3, CIX, etc. With all the cuts in the infrastructure budgets, 2012 will still be the year in which most motorway kilometers were opened in the history of Romania, so you can't really blame any government.

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Eurocopter missed it by mistake. Arad-Pecica will also open in 2013 - about 16 km which are U/C now by Alpine.
According to the current construction progress and some 'inside' sources, 12km between Pecica and Arad might open later this year.
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Old September 8th, 2012, 03:54 PM   #5004
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eurocopter previously you mentioned something about A3 Bors section, which is/will be postponed, because there is no much need of it at present. how the hell on earth they started the works ?
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Old September 8th, 2012, 07:55 PM   #5005
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There will be an interchange north of Nadlac connecting A1 with DN7, 2-3km before the border crossing.
The link road towards DN7 is the most problematic part, due to utilities (OMV Petrom), design, expropriations, conflict between contract leader Romstrade and its partner MonteAdriano and so on. Works have not started there yet.
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Old September 9th, 2012, 09:46 AM   #5006
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I still don't get why don't they use DJ709J as the link road between A1 and DN7 near Nadlac... no utilities, no expropriations etc... They just have to rebuild it because it's a crappy road now.
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Old September 9th, 2012, 10:14 AM   #5007
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A1 Orastie-Sibiu:

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A1 Deva-Orastie, north of Simeria, on DJ700A:

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Old September 9th, 2012, 10:29 AM   #5009
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Nice photos! It seems you've been out and about
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Old September 9th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #5010
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Why is here that viaduct needed? The road runing paralel to it seems to have motorway standarts.
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Old September 9th, 2012, 04:11 PM   #5011
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Why is here that viaduct needed? The road runing paralel to it seems to have motorway standarts.
That road (DN1 and DN7) is just a normal 2+2 road, not constructed at motorway standards. It passes through villages, has many at grade-intersections and doesn't have emergency lanes. And it is 2+2 for a very short distance, just a few kilometers. It is also needed after the motorway is complete for the local traffic and traffic that can't use the motorway (bicycles, tractors etc.)
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Old September 9th, 2012, 04:35 PM   #5012
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Why is here that viaduct needed? The road runing paralel to it seems to have motorway standarts.
The existing road has the standard similar to a motorway on just 600 m, and it's 2+2 on several km's, but, as panda80 stated, it will be necessary for local traffic after the motorway will be opened.
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Old September 9th, 2012, 10:15 PM   #5013
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Old September 9th, 2012, 10:22 PM   #5014
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My personal "optimistic" opinion?


A0, which you are referring, will stay on paper until at least until 2014. There is no money for it, either from EU or national budget and there are little chances for a private investment.

The current ring has been withdrawn most funds for 2x2 expansion a few days ago and trasferred to increased pensions by the current socialist gov. So everything is blocked there at least until next year when works might resume .... might because it depends on many unknown facts.

As for the inner Bucharest motorway of our lunatic mayor, it is expected to cost at an average EUR 100 m per km so IMHO it will never be done, also because he is a big mouth and mostly says bullshit as electoral promises.

Here's an optimistic and political account.
So wich is the best way to pass trough Bucurest from south to north. And more specificly, which is the best path from DN5 (coming from Giurgiu) and going via Baneasa airport to Otopeni airport?
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Old September 10th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #5015
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No we will not. The current government announced plans to proceed in developing the southern branch of CIV. It doesn't matter the nature of the government so much, we still need to develop effectively our motorway network and everybody knows that - this includes, CIV north and south, A3, CIX, etc. With all the cuts in the infrastructure budgets, 2012 will still be the year in which most motorway kilometers were opened in the history of Romania, so you can't really blame any government.
I agree that 2012 is the best year for motorways in Romania, but this is due to the exceptional work of the former Min Boagiu who broke off the vicious circle of poor ministers delivering nothing but plans and scandals or excuses for their failures. The spectacular openings this year (by Romanian standards but also European - Romania is now closely following Poland this year in motorway openings) was only possible because of the contracts signed and work carried out the previous years.

I hope we'll see a similar degree of performance in the coming years until we reach a decent 2,000 km backbone network. I am hower in disagreement with your appeal to network rationale with the current Gov for the continuation of certain projects such as CIV south branch or A3. You know well the current Gov has employed the same person who was involved in the signing of the disastruous Transylvania Motorway agreement which resulted in almost EUR 1b paid to Bechtel for a 50 km stretch of the motorway or about EUR 20 m per km, as well as and more importanrly, the delay in works for CIV north branch. Mme Boagiu managed, after great efforts, to come to an agreement with Bechtel to end the contract for most of the lenght of TM without penalties for Romania, smth really important as otherwise penalties could have risen into billions of EUR - the value of contract lost by Bechtel.

On top, to the same line of counter arguments against a call to reson, I remind you the current Gov has cut funds from important projects such as Bucharest Ring expansion, Oradea by-pass, Suceava by-pass in order to put it into pensions in view of the Dec 9 general elections (and92 noted that well). What's more, and in the same line is that the main basin of voters for the left is south Romania which leads to the fact that they will have to deliver infrastructure there - in fact they already moved moneys from the opposition local constiuencies to current power local constituecies and PM Ponta announced the gov needs to deliver a motorway for the Oltenia region (also called by Ford admitedly) which does not have financing. On top, many strongmen in his party come from the area of CIX (which BTW has EU backing and financing) and they will put pressure for deliveries in their constituencies. On the other hand, I never heard Ponta speaking of CIV south - not that I place a lot of trust in Ponta's words and admit that EU can change his stupid mind.


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Old September 10th, 2012, 10:29 AM   #5016
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So wich is the best way to pass trough Bucurest from south to north. And more specificly, which is the best path from DN5 (coming from Giurgiu) and going via Baneasa airport to Otopeni airport?
As a Bucharester, I never take the ring during the week, except maybe for the expanded 20 km north section, because you can get stuck in between dozens of trucks on both directions for hours and miss the plane. I always go through the city to cross it. On weekends, the ring is less crowded but even then you can get unlucky.

I know the ring is important for Bulgarians going to or coming from the Otopeni airport but the situation won't improve in the coming 2 years at least, unless works for the contracted sections of the ring will get full financial backing which is unlikelly IMO.
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Could you show on a map wich route trough Bucurest is the best (wich streets)?
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This is the route I would take - the inner ring to avoid the Bucharest ring. The route has less traffic lights and generally less traffic than crossing Bucharest directly through downtown.

Sorry, I don't know how to use GEarth for directions, maybe someone can help.

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Old September 11th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #5020
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A3 from the air with service area under preparations:

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