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Old November 8th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #5221
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Today, the incumbent government alliance has announced today the intention to build the Bucharest-Chisinau motorway during the coming 4-year period as one of their main infrastructure focus. As it is quite probable they will win the December elections, we will probably see a change of focus to eastern Romania in terms of infrastructure, as it was earlier discussed on this thread.

They are still looking at completing CIV north as a main focus but added CIX as another main focus. Of course, all this could turn out to be bogus, especially under the new EU 2014-2020 budget which announces some heavy cuts from the earlier one.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:32 PM   #5222
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Isn't completeing A1(+ Carpathians crossing) a decent and challenging enough goal for the next romanian government(2013 - 2017)?
Or do they plan to skip Sibiu - Pitesti section?
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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:41 PM   #5223
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I mentioned the main task is still completing CIV during 2014-2020 EU budget, which basically means Sibiu-Pitesti as zero priority with EU money. Whatever EU money left, they'll use it for CIX mainly. This is in planning, which of course can go pretty wrong in reality.

Chinese money cannot be used, as they figured, because under EU rules, the EU member state cannot give state guarantees for investments.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:45 PM   #5224
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Sorry, my bad.

Thank you for clarifying. I will quote you in BG section since I found this news quite interesting and a bit surprising

What is their motivation? If I were romanian I would invest in Nadlac - Bucharest - Constanta. And then C IX.

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Old November 9th, 2012, 07:57 AM   #5225
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Nadlac-Bucharest-Constanta should be completed by 2015, except Sibiu-Pitesti for which the plan is to be built by 2018 with EU funding. So C IV completion remains the foremost goal. However, they want to complete C IX by 2020 too as a second major objective, which is also EU funded up to 85% of the cost (same as CIV). So the only motivation is money, EU money. They'll go first for projects which are mostly EU funded and CIX is the only project that is funded on the largest percentage by EU, after CIV.

They have other plans but they are irrelevant once the funding is not clear, I mean Bucharest-Craiova-Lugoj motorway (south motorway) and Iasi-Tg Mures motorway, both unrealistic IMO since there is almost no EU money available for them in the coming EU budget. For example, only Iasi-Tg Mures cost has been estimated by feasibility study at EUR 6 billion, because it runs only through mountains and hills.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #5226
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I remember Sibiu - Pitesti is going to cost 2-3bln euro, right? How many lots will it have? Is it designed already?

How much money for motorways construction will be left after taking out the money for the last section of A1?
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Old November 9th, 2012, 11:02 AM   #5227
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Yes, Sibiu-Pitesti is going to cost almost EUR 3 billion. The section is in tender procedures for the FS. So no design works or lot carving yet.

There is no info on how much money Romania will get from the EU in 2014-2020, as the EU budget is still in debate currently. But we should get more if the EU wants us to mark some more advance with motorway construction.

Of course, if the Gov will want to focus more on infrastructure, they could put more money from the budget in it as the previous Gov did with Transilvania Motorway and A3. But I do not have high hopes for that as the new socialist Gov has taken money from non-EU funded infrastructure and put it into welfare.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 02:39 PM   #5228
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Okay. Do they plan to upgrade Ploesti - Focsani - Husi road or will they continue north from Focsani towards Bacau? Which is more improtant according to them?

Since C IX is priority, is there any chance we migth see an improvement in Bucuresti - Giurgiu road? And again, if yes, which road might be given higher priority - Bucuresti - Giurgiu or Ploesti - Focsani?

I hope I am not asking too much questions.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 04:58 PM   #5229
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This is Corridor IX in Romania:



I think this should be completed with a motorway from Bucharest to Giurgiu, and of course with another bridge at Giurgiu/Ruse for larger capacity, and with a motorway from Ruse to Svilengrad.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #5230
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Our ministress is in Qatar these days. Hope we will have good news for the Ruse - Svilengrad mototrway.

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Old November 10th, 2012, 08:23 AM   #5231
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Hopefully with good news. Keep us posted.

Here's a better map of CIX by reference to other motorways (existing or planned by 2025):

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Old November 11th, 2012, 01:40 PM   #5232
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Gov will soon terminate the construction contract for Nadlac-Pecica motorway section of A1 (22 km) officially for delays of works.

Tender procedures will be resumed for this section after termination, but the whole procedures of tendering, contracting and works resumption, will take the completion of the project from 2013 to 2014 at the earliest.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 01:49 PM   #5233
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Old November 11th, 2012, 04:39 PM   #5234
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Gov will soon terminate the construction contract for Nadlac-Pecica motorway section of A1 (22 km) officially for delays of works.

Tender procedures will be resumed for this section after termination, but the whole procedures of tendering, contracting and works resumption, will take the completion of the project from 2013 to 2014 at the earliest.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #5235
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truly sad. maybe we'll make it to the border at the same time with our motorways.
M43 comes 2014/9, if there is no delay (it surely will be)...
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Old November 11th, 2012, 07:50 PM   #5236
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Some cheering and unseen images so far here: Mures bridge already built on A1 (Deva-Orastie section) - sorry for the low quality of pics, it was a foggy day:


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truly sad. maybe we'll make it to the border at the same time with our motorways.
M43 comes 2014/9, if there is no delay (it surely will be)...
If they speed up procedures, and award the contract in Q1 2013, the works can be completed by spring 2014. It's a very easy flat section, as opposed to other sections on A1, more difficult (with art works such as bridges, viaducts etc) and which are on time.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 10:25 PM   #5238
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truly sad. maybe we'll make it to the border at the same time with our motorways.
M43 comes 2014/9, if there is no delay (it surely will be)...
It all depends on the new government determination (we have elections on the 9th of December).

We had a previous termination of a contract in April 2011 on A2 Cernavoda - Medgidia. By that time everybody was pesimistic about the delay of that section. We were "sure" that retendering procedures and the new construction will take at least 2-3 year and that the section will open in 2013 or even 2014. But in reality, the new tender was held and awarded by June 2011. In July 2012 A2 Cernavoda - Medgidia was opened half-profile. And by now it's complete full-profile. Actually we expect the official opening on the 15th of November. And that was heavy terrain with heavy works. So a lot harder then Pecica - Nadlac, the section of A1 with the contract being terminated now.

Therefore, A1 it can go both ways: either slow in 2-3 years or extremly fast, like A2, thus having a half-profile or even a full-profile opening for Pecica - Nadlac in the Autumn of 2013. At this point nobody can tell...
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Old November 12th, 2012, 08:22 AM   #5239
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PM has announced as zero priority for 2013, tenders for the construction of:

1. Craiova-Pitesti motorway(A?) - EUR 500 million project
2. Comarnic-Brasov (A3) - EUR 1.5 billion project


Take it with a bit a salt though. Let's see that happening!

http://www.incomemagazine.ro/articol...utostrazi.html

PS: Craiova-Pitesti motorway has been requested by Ford a few times, to be able to transport its growing car production, as well as by the biggest European Pirelli plant in Slatina (on the route of this motorway).




BTW: if you follow this Craiova-Pitesti route further into Ploiesti you'll notice it'll bring C IX traffic into Vidin-Calafat too.
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Old November 12th, 2012, 09:51 AM   #5240
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Damn it!
why ?

I can see only positive things coming out of this decision.
if the vendor is not on time and according to the Romanian Road Authority the new vendor conditions (to improve the situation) are unacceptable then the only way out is to cancel the existing contract.

delays happen everywhere. it is a good sign for other construction companies doing thier business in Romania that no delays will be tolerated and penalties will be executed.

of course the above makes only sense if you have professionalists in the Road Authority, if not and - in fact - there were some non-businesses conditions impacting contact cancellation then ...
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