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Old December 12th, 2012, 09:16 AM   #5401
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It sems Corridor IV south has beeen put aside for many years to come (as I speculated here some time ago). Priorities of the new Gov are the above said motorways, and a string of secondary express-ways, all without EU funding. I wonder why?!
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Old December 12th, 2012, 09:30 AM   #5402
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Which part of the A1 will be built next??
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Old December 12th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #5403
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The remaining sections which were tendered a few months ago (the non-contracted lots on Timisoara-Lugoj and Lugoj-Deva), and then Sibiu-Pitesti with EU money in 2014-2020. At least, this is what should be done.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 10:11 AM   #5404
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when will be the next part of the A3 opened??
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Old December 12th, 2012, 10:21 AM   #5405
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Which one? If you refer to Bors-Suplacu, certainly NOT next year, because there is no money allocated to that. And from how the priorities look like, not in a few years.

There is a small stretch of 8 km near Cluj that was contracted in the summer and that might be opened in 2014 but that's it!

If they contract Comarnic-Brasov, then we might see that completed by 2016.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 11:20 AM   #5406
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Thanks. Looks like Vinci is in good standing. Do you have similar data for Aktor?

I wasn't able to find Aktor rating. IMO their rating has to be inferior then Vinci's.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #5407
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There is a small stretch of 8 km near Cluj that was contracted in the summer and that might be opened in 2014 but that's it!
You're again overoptimistic . Nothing has been contracted yet.
Another joint-venture has filled a complaint against the tender results and subsequently the state authority CNSC has ordered CNADNR to reassess all offers.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #5408
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i mean the part to the hungarian border
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Old December 12th, 2012, 09:18 PM   #5409
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That's true. That's what they'll TELL YOU. Totally different of what they'll tell Enron, Fannie, Vici.
The head of CNADNR says Comarnic-Brasov clings on banks' interest.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #5410
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You're again overoptimistic . Nothing has been contracted yet.
Another joint-venture has filled a complaint against the tender results and subsequently the state authority CNSC has ordered CNADNR to reassess all offers.
I didn't know about the complaint against the tender results.

Edit: the decision is from 7.12 so very recent.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 09:21 PM   #5411
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I wasn't able to find Aktor rating. IMO their rating has to be inferior then Vinci's.
They should be CCC or smth like that. BTW: Aktor has been removed from trading.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #5412
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i mean the part to the hungarian border
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Which one? If you refer to Bors-Suplacu, certainly NOT next year, because there is no money allocated to that. And from how the priorities look like, not in a few years.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #5413
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via Hotnews.ro / Agerpress 2016 the Constanta - Nadlac highway to be completed (make that 2018, maybe), 2-3 years to have A3 into Bucharest and also 2014 for Sibiu - Nadlac...
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Old December 13th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #5414
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The Head of the Road Company stated yesterday that Corridor IV will be completed by 2016, with the Sibiu-Nadlac section to be completed by 2014, while Pitesti-Sibiu to be completed by 2016. A contractor for the section should be selected by end of next year.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #5415
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The Head of the Road Company stated yesterday that (...) the Sibiu-Nadlac section to be completed by 2014 ....
I do not remember exactly how far the project for this section is advanced, but completeling over 300 km partially located in mountanious area in two years sounds ... yes, sounds like what ? not to mention you needed to secure financing.
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I do not remember exactly how far the project for this section is advanced, but completeling over 300 km partially located in mountanious area in two years sounds ... yes, sounds like what ? not to mention you needed to secure financing.
Sibiu-Pitesti is 100 km long. It's indeed a very costly project (~ EUR 3 billion) but will fall entirely under EU financing starting 2014. In fact, most of the EU funds for Romania's infrastructure for the 2014-2020 period will go into that section, which will be one of the most awesome motorways to drive in Europe, considering the viaducts and tunnels needed.

I agree it's an optimist projection, but it could be done in 3 years IMO, if nothing goes wrong. Again, this will be funded by EU at 85% of the cost.
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I agree it's an optimist projection, but it could be done in 3 years IMO, if nothing goes wrong. Again, this will be funded by EU at 85% of the cost.
What's wrong with you? You're again over-optimistic

On this one I'm still cautious. I'm not so convinced that they'll have a constructor selected next year and even so, I still have doubts that such a motorway can be built in 3 years. I mean, look at the troubles they have with the hills between Sibiu and Orastie. Now multiply that by 10 and that would be the amount of trouble of crossing the motorway through the hills between the Arges and the Olt valleys.

Cause, by the way, that will be the hardest part and the most expensive in the whole project. Crossing mountains through the Olt Valley will be far more easy. Those hills are the one's that knocked down the Valcele - Ramnicu Valcea railway.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 02:50 PM   #5418
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There will be multiple contractors on this section, which will probably be segmented in several small lots. The Aciliu Viaduct was built in 1 year. If you hire a contractor for each 15 km of the section, then they could do the 15 km lot in 3 years. Of course, many things can go wrong, but in theory 3 years should be enough for small lots.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:11 PM   #5419
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when is the motorway between satu mare and baia mare??
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Old December 13th, 2012, 04:43 PM   #5420
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when is the motorway between satu mare and baia mare??
There's a lot of talk about it, but expressway, not motorway. Yet it's just talk so far. I don't think it will/can be ready earlier then 2015 or even later.
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